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Here's an article about Adam Budge, 18, charged with murder following friend's synthetic drug overdoseQuote:Adam Budge gave his buddy, 17-year-old Elijah Stai of Park Rapids, a fatal dose of a synthetic hallucinogen. Budge, 18, could spend 25 years in prison as a result.
Just before 10 p.m. on June 12, Budge and Stai were hanging out at Budge's East Grand Forks home when they mixed a white power -- 2C-I -- with melted chocolate and ate the drug-laced candy. They then went to a McDonald's. An hour later, Stai began "freaking out" and acting as if he were "possessed," foaming at the mouth, hyperventilating, and smashing his head against the ground. Budge and other buddy laid Stai down in a bed and placed a wet towel on his head to cool him down. By 1:30 in the morning, Stai was no longer breathing.
Yesterday, Budge was charged with third-degree murder, second-degree manslaughter, selling a controlled substance to a juvenile, and selling a controlled substance. The murder charge alone carries a maximum penalty of 25 years.
Budge told police he had meant to buy marijuana when he went to his dealer a couple weeks ago, but ended up paying $100 for a baggie of a white powder he believed contained an extract of hallucinogenic mushrooms.
Police in the Red River Valley have been warning area residents about a bad batch of 2C-I linked to the deaths of Stai and Christian Bjerk, 18, who was found dead on a Grand Forks sidewalk on June 11 from an overdose similar to Stai's.
Lieutenant Rod Hajicek of the East Grand Forks PD said the tainted batch "seems to be isolated to the Grand Forks-East Grand Forks area right now, but anytime we have two individuals dead within a couple days of each other, that certainly gets our attention." Make of it what you will. I would like to see the toxicology report.
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https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=36517“The most compelling insight of that day was that this awesome recall had been brought about by a fraction of a gram of a white solid, but that in no way whatsoever could it be argued that these memories had been contained within the white solid. Everything I had recognized came from the depths of my memory and my psyche. I understood that our entire universe is contained in the mind and the spirit. We may choose not to find access to it, we may even deny its existence, but it is indeed there inside us, and there are chemicals that can catalyze its availability.”
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Korey wrote:https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36517 Thanks for the heads up. I've edited the post accordingly.
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Wow. There's no telling how much 2C-I they took if he really thought it was psilocybin extract. I'm glad I don't take synthetics with other people, lol. Autopsy would be even better, I'm sure it's possible he could have been concussed or had a brain bleed from the head banging. “The most compelling insight of that day was that this awesome recall had been brought about by a fraction of a gram of a white solid, but that in no way whatsoever could it be argued that these memories had been contained within the white solid. Everything I had recognized came from the depths of my memory and my psyche. I understood that our entire universe is contained in the mind and the spirit. We may choose not to find access to it, we may even deny its existence, but it is indeed there inside us, and there are chemicals that can catalyze its availability.”
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Sad it makes me not want the rc's even more. "we are not human being's having spiritual experiences, we are spiritual being's having human experience's." (Teilhard de Chardin (1975?)
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I remember some years back I read about a young man who ovredosed on blue mystic. His friends said he was banging his head against the ground and the dash of the car acting possessed just before he died as well. I wonder if this kind of freak out is a usual symptom of phynethlamine overdose? And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
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what a load of BS..they are charging this kid with murder? Why would this ever qualify as murder? It is sad yes but to ruin this other kids life in the process? Long live the unwoke.
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jamie wrote:what a load of BS..they are charging this kid with murder? Why would this ever qualify as murder? It is sad yes but to ruin this other kids life in the process? Recently in my area a similar incident happened. Except instead of the person's friend being responsible and taking them to a place where they may recover, they left them at the McDonalds. It's just disgusting.
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jamie wrote:what a load of BS..they are charging this kid with murder? Why would this ever qualify as murder? It is sad yes but to ruin this other kids life in the process? It's extremely sad, I agree, more peoples lives destroyed. The only case I could see is if it was possible to show that the dealer was knowingly substituting RC's. Which is highly irresponsible and dangerous. Thats a pretty hard/near impossible thing to prove that he knew he was selling RC's as something else. I always worry when taking high doses of LSD that potentially I have an RC in hand and not LSD. I think this is why its usually best to take the conservative approach with any drug you are unsure of, that is take the dosage that if it was the most potent RC would still be non-lethal. Unfortunately with the way our drug education works in the USA at least we arm kids with "All Drugs Ruin Lives/Kill", which all drugs (even Vitamins) can kill, there are dangers, but without the proper information its hard for people to make reasonable choices. Worse yet, the mass populous usually sees the above as more reason to "ban" these substances, not educate and ensure there is some amount of regulation. Not to even get into the moral aspect of it, there is no evidence in history to suggest its even possible to control such substances, however there is a LOT of evidence of the harm that trying causes.
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Is this the same stuff? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFLY#_+ ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- DMT Nexus Research ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- + ---- +
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No, but it is a very potent phenethylamine. “The most compelling insight of that day was that this awesome recall had been brought about by a fraction of a gram of a white solid, but that in no way whatsoever could it be argued that these memories had been contained within the white solid. Everything I had recognized came from the depths of my memory and my psyche. I understood that our entire universe is contained in the mind and the spirit. We may choose not to find access to it, we may even deny its existence, but it is indeed there inside us, and there are chemicals that can catalyze its availability.”
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