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#161 Posted : 9/19/2012 8:03:08 PM
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Man can anyone please help me? i think i performed the sodium carb wash wrong....i mixed about .5 g of sodium carbonate and about 50 mls of water, i squirted that into the naphtha and shook for about a minute and then afterwards i poured the naptha onto a new jug, at the very end of the jug that the naphtha was in in the first place there was orange gunk i threw that out and repeated the process 2 times. then i poured a bit of cold tap water in the naphtha and decanted that and thats how i ended up with the orange/amber naphtha. its been in the freezer for 15-16 hrs and the naphtha is now a light orangeish color and theres a lot of dark sediment at the bottom, what the fuck do i do please please please help. how do i do a sodium carbonate wash? and what should i do to fix this.....is this even fixable or just plain fucked.....please help im very worried



You probably should not have disposed of anything....

I't sounds like you have an emulsion of tap water and naptha...(water and naptha seperate properly only if the water is basic. you may have to either evaporate everything and add naptha again or re basify and start back at the begining again..

The sodium carbonate wash was to be performed on the finished product ,... not addded to the naptha.

EDIT: the acidity of the tap water may have converted your freebase spice into some kind of salted spice...so a re-base may be in order.
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#162 Posted : 9/19/2012 8:30:28 PM

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stidescolt45
#163 Posted : 9/19/2012 9:11:07 PM
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Kay well the tek instructed me mix in a jar hot tap water, and sodium carbonate. squirted like 25-50 mls of the solution into the naphtha, shook for a couple secs, decanted. repeated this shit one more time for a total of 2 'washes'. performed one final wash by adding just a tiny bit of cold tap water to naphtha, shook for a couple of secs and decanted that quickly so the water would not ionize the dmt, an orange dark layer was left at the bottom i got rid of that and kept all the naphtha. placed the naphtha jug in the freezer and the amber orange naphtha has now turned very light, with a very dark layer at the bottom....what the fuck could that be and have i fucked up?
 
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#164 Posted : 9/19/2012 9:15:40 PM

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stidescolt45
#165 Posted : 9/20/2012 12:50:18 AM
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Ha, well the naphtha turned yellow after being placed in the freezer for like 18 hours. the jug went in the freezer lookin cloudy and orange/honey. kinda looked like raw apple cider....all cloudy and honey colored. anyway, when i pulled the jug out the freezer, the bottom was all dark and brown looks like mud. and theres definitely crystals in that gunk mud shit, how do i clean that shit out? i dont wanna throw it. it literally looks like mud but theres lil crystals. should i run it thru a coffee filter thats been placed in a makeshift 2 liter coke bottle top funnel and dry the xtals? Wish i could post pics but the phone wont let me
 
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#166 Posted : 9/20/2012 4:07:19 AM
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stidescolt45 wrote:
Kay well the tek instructed me mix in a jar hot tap water, and sodium carbonate. squirted like 25-50 mls of the solution into the naphtha, shook for a couple secs, decanted. repeated this shit one more time for a total of 2 'washes'. performed one final wash by adding just a tiny bit of cold tap water to naphtha, shook for a couple of secs and decanted that quickly so the water would not ionize the dmt, an orange dark layer was left at the bottom i got rid of that and kept all the naphtha. placed the naphtha jug in the freezer and the amber orange naphtha has now turned very light, with a very dark layer at the bottom....what the fuck could that be and have i fucked up?


sounds like the tech you used is #$%&@#! you shoud have came here first
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#167 Posted : 9/20/2012 6:25:21 AM
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Ive performed dmt extractions before, but not like this...i used to perform the tryptotek dmt tek. it used about 100 gs mimosa, this tek i used called for a whole pound of mimosa....didnt think it would be complicated cuz like i said ive done extractions before and i never saw dark naphtha....anyway the mud/gunk was full of crystals. i poured the mud containing crystals in several coffee filters and squeezed alll the liquid out. i was then left with a peanut butter lookin paste that i let air dry for an hour and placed back in the freezer for the night. tomorrow im planning on drying it more and choppin it up finely, im sure the paste is dmt but its dirty....so my question is, how do i recrystallize and what are the measurements (how many mls of naphtha do i use) i have an idea on how to recrystallize...from what i read and understood all i do is heat some naphtha up in a hot water bath, have a shot glass with a grams worth of dmt and pour the warm naphtha until it covers the dmt? then what do i do? do i stir
 
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#168 Posted : 9/20/2012 7:14:04 AM
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do i stir and mix the warm naphtha with the dmt in the shot glass? or will the warm naphtha dissolve the brown dmt? and then afterwards what do i do? retrieve the top clear naphtha layer and dump the nasty brown stuff? nexus community thank you so far for at least givin me some input, please help me out on this re-x thing as ive never done a re-x since with the tryptotek tek i always ended up with white/off white dmt. again thank you so much for your help, any help is greatly appreciated. also anyone know why the naphtha was all dark at first? i was reading that people have the same problem i have if using powdered mhrb, also i shook the jugs violently. maybe the naphtha pulled some of the colors/tannins from the bark? one last question, depending on my yield from this tek ive been lookin for a new relatively easy stb tek. im lookin for somethin that can be done in a day, uses a pound of mhrb, and has alright yields...and by alright i mean like getting anywhere from 5-7 gs outta one pound mhrb. so can anyone
 
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#169 Posted : 9/20/2012 7:28:16 AM
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So can anyone show me any teks that will meet my needs? (i need a stb tek thats fairly easy, uses one pound mhrb, can be completed in a day or less) cuz i kinda dont wanna go thru this dark naphtha bull$hit again, granted all it took to fix this problem was to stick the naphtha in the freezer and voila the naphtha turned yellow, like piss. a lot more clearer than what it was, as it used to look honey/orange. sorry for postin several replies as well, my phone wont let me type more than several hundred words so i have to start a new reply...also thanks again for your help
 
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#170 Posted : 9/21/2012 1:11:29 PM
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Hello everyone!! I am extremely new to this, as a matter of fact haven’t even done it yet, I like doing the research before trying anything. I must say that I am very lost, I would love to try DMT but have no idea what plant has it or what to do or how to get it or anything. If anyone out there has any advice that can point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
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#171 Posted : 9/21/2012 3:26:32 PM

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stidescolt45 wrote:
So can anyone show me any teks that will meet my needs? (i need a stb tek thats fairly easy, uses one pound mhrb, can be completed in a day or less) cuz i kinda dont wanna go thru this dark naphtha bull$hit again, granted all it took to fix this problem was to stick the naphtha in the freezer and voila the naphtha turned yellow, like piss. a lot more clearer than what it was, as it used to look honey/orange. sorry for postin several replies as well, my phone wont let me type more than several hundred words so i have to start a new reply...also thanks again for your help


You can check the STB teks available in the wiki.

Probably the simplest and fastest proper STB tek is Lazyman's Tek.

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Hello everyone!! I am extremely new to this, as a matter of fact haven’t even done it yet, I like doing the research before trying anything. I must say that I am very lost, I would love to try DMT but have no idea what plant has it or what to do or how to get it or anything. If anyone out there has any advice that can point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.


Hello, no worries, everyone starts there. Just make a big fat bookmark in the Nexus Wiki, link in the upper right corner. And read a lot. You should start with the DMT Brief Overview, then work your way from there.
 
stidescolt45
#172 Posted : 9/21/2012 6:55:10 PM
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i appreciate the input Vodsel, but from what ive read a lot of people have complaints about the lazymans tek, and i think it requires for one to evap naphtha....i cant evap anything i reside in an apartment and i dont have a backyard/patio. so i cant have the place smellin like $h!t. i need somethin i can just stick in the freezer for a day or 3 and get xtals. also can anyone give me an answer real quick for a question ive got?i performed the simple stb pictorial tek, guess i shook the jugs too hard (shook em pretty violently) and when i decanted the naphtha it was dark, performed two sodium carbonate solution washes to the dark naphtha. cleared it up to a honey color. after placing the naphtha in the freezer for 18 hrs the darkness settled at the bottom leaving the naphtha lookin like piss. i then transfered the yellow naphtha to different fp vessels and when i did that i noticed that in the dark sludge there was a lot of xtals. i know what xtals look like, and im pretty sure you all know too.
 
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#173 Posted : 9/21/2012 6:58:13 PM

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So...why do you think you can't freeze precip naphtha used in lazyman?

Sounds like it might be worth your while to read up on the principles behind the various stages of the extraction process.
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stidescolt45
#174 Posted : 9/21/2012 7:03:00 PM
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So im not mistaken and i aint trippin, theres def xtals in there. i then poured the dark sludge into a funnel lined with a coffee filter, i squeezed all the liquid out and inside the filters remained a peanut butter lookin paste. i tried drying it in front of a hotel ac, but that didnt work so well. the xtals were all goopy and $h!t. so i stuck the peanut butter mass inside a coffee filter and placed it in the freezer. now its pretty solid and looks like a peanut butter chocolate bar. my question is, can i recrystallize this? the frozen paste weighs 10.3 gs and i know theres spice in there i can smell it (that floral dmt scent, yknow what im talkin bout) id rly appreciate it if someone can answer ASAP. thanks nexus community
 
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#175 Posted : 9/21/2012 7:15:32 PM
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Snozzleberry, its not that i dont think i cant fp the naphtha used for the lazymans tek. if im not mistaken the tek calls for one to evap the naphtha till its reduced to a shot glass worth of liquid, i cant do that cuz of my living conditions. so if i were to perform the lazymans tek could i just stick the decanted naphtha in the freezer for 1-3 days and xtals would appear? and yes i know but i do not have internet access at home atm, and can only be online thru my phone so when i get access to a computer i will get on it man
 
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#176 Posted : 9/21/2012 7:56:57 PM

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You can try freeze precipitating as it is (making smaller pulls are better, then, since they will be more saturated), and if nothing or not much comes out, you can salt out your solvent with vinegar, evap that or just re-a/b it and use small warm pulls which can be freeze precpitated
 
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#177 Posted : 9/21/2012 8:09:28 PM
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cool i might try the lazymans tek. and also id prefer no a/b procedures. id prefer stb, i dont wanna bother boiling stuff. i know that if you spend more time doin what yr supposed to be doin will result with better outcomes but i want somethin that can be done quick and no a/b. so whats up with the dmt paste, can anyone answer that and let me know if i can re-x the paste, cuz like i mentioned before that $h!t smells like spice therefore theres obviously spice innit.
 
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#178 Posted : 9/21/2012 8:14:40 PM

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You can always re-x an impure product, yes. STB is fine.

I know this has been said before but please avoid saying "shit" and stuff like this, even if you hide it with symbols. Might seem like nitpicking but as our attitude say, we really want to keep a less slang-ish and more mature kind of atmosphere here, so it helps to not refer to DMT or things as "shit".

BTW, it might not be your case but it seems from your post to imply you're doing the extraction in a place where others cannot know about what you are doing, and if that is the case, we REALLY recommend you do not do this, also as our attitude page says, because it puts you and everybody else around you (And the owner of the house) in legal danger.
 
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#179 Posted : 9/21/2012 8:57:37 PM
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So i can pretty much re-x that dmt paste is what yr saying, right? and i resorted to calling the paste 'shit' for lack of a better word. (my mind isnt as sharp as it was, i used to be a dxm junkie. not an addict cuz i could do well without it but i did it everyday cuz it was fun, and i used to consume mdma a lot as well) when i cant think of a word to describe somethin on the spot i resort to profanity. nasty habit i know, but theres worse. also i live in an apartment where my gf is anti-drug. shes out of town for the moment so i figured id whip up some spice cuz its been almost a year since ive had any before she comes back. i hadnt extracted spice in a while cuz i just dont wanna get in an arguement over this, knowing her shed blow it out of proportion and make a big deal and leave our home...she could even leave me...cant have that happening. anyway thank you for all the help ive been provided thus far
 
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#180 Posted : 9/22/2012 3:32:16 AM
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It'll almost certainly have no noticeable loss in potency. I think it may depend on purity, I guess if you have super pure crystal it will be less stable than some waxy jimjam. I leave jimjam lying around in open air for weeks and never notice any difference. I've never had anything pure enough that I feel the need to shield it from light or put it in the freezer or anything.
 
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