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Ayaosa
#1 Posted : 9/14/2012 10:01:52 AM

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I'm Ayaosa. I'm not entirely sure how to explain myself to get a moderator to promote me, so I suppose I could just share a dream I had the day after an acid induced shpongle concert.
Here's some background of myself: I'm an inspiring psybient producer. I haven't actually made a complete electronica song yet, only fragments, half songs, presets, etc... The reason for that though is for me to practice all of the little things that make up these types of songs.
The type of electronica I've experimented with is ambient, chillout, downtempo, electro, techno, glitch hop, industrial, dnb, and dubstep. Like I said, my goal for the type of music I want to play is psybient. This is basically every genre a given producer likes to make or listen to combined into one genre. I've been waiting for this day, and I believe I'm actually at the stage to start it.
I'm a shpongle/ott/shulman/entheogenic fan, so I'm all about making music that will send people straight down into their minds. I love shpongle for his intensely advance and guru-esque technique of his music. Ott has the really awesome reagae/chillout feel, also he works with pretty much only analog and modular synthesis, which is bonkers beyond any belief. Shulman tells stories with his music, which is exactly what I want to do with my music, tell stories.
I want to make albums solely for the exploration of a given topic, almost like a movie. I'm going to be making a sound track to a dream I had after a shpongle concert I went to this summer. Basically, everything in this dream I will latter explain with sampling, pure synthesis and drumming, you know, music.
Okay, finally here's the dream:
Planting a Seed
Walking through a field of tall grass you wander around noticing all the things around you. The birds are singing their morning chirps, bugs are buzzing by dancing in the wind. The wind is blowing and brushing the grass against your legs. You throw yourself on the ground, feeling the grass against your body. You open your eyes and look at the clouds wisp away, taking deep breaths, enjoying every second of the day.
The gigantic tree next to you is dancing to the breeze. The leaves are smacking against each other, the noise of it.
You take in another deep breath, closing your eyes and perch yourself upright. Open your eyes as you exhale. There is the sight of a river. You take a liking to the steady current and splashing of the stream against the rocks and boulders, so you make your way over there. The sound of the water gets steadily louder. There's a huge flat boulder untouched on the top in the middle of the river, how exciting. You hop from stone to stone.
Shit, you almost slipped on that one. Being more cautious you make the last few leaps to the boulder. What a sigh of relief it is to be on this rock. You turn to watch the current drift downstream. The current is so noisy; everything nature-wise seemed to have disappeared.
"Why is the river moving by faster?" You ponder to yourself.
"Dear God!" Shocked
There is a 20 foot wave right above you. It crashes onto you sending you downstream. Your hearing is much muffled you are disoriented. You black out. (Pads come in/song switch)
You wake up, completely able to see underwater. Freaking out, you question how you aren't dead. You appear to be able to breathe underwater now. "Nifty!"
You start to go with it and swim around. Exploring the inner depths of this vast body of water. You end up find numerous things, animals playing instruments, mermaids singing, temptation, sea creatures, and all sorts of madness that leaves you wanting to find more.
(^that part last a long while, so there's going to be around 4 or 6 songs in there/Song switch)
You come across a cavern. The water gets cold. Chills are shot down your spine. Everything gets really quiet. Looking around it, you try to make something out. All of the sudden a current starts to draw you in. You swim away, fighting it with every ounce of your being. No matter how fast or how hard you swim you just can't fight the current. You come to a state of mind where you accept nothing can be done and decide to let go. Everything is moving so fast, you don't know what's going on. All of your memories from this past adventure are popping up. All of the music, sounds, voices you heard are freezing in time. Eventually the current slows down, but you're unable to move. The water around you is actually freezing. Ice completely forms around you.
(Pads lift listener up to the surface)
Very crisp, hard pads will be going on after that.
My footsteps on the ice are coming from a distance. Very faded and gradually getting clearer. You start hearing me squeeze a tin can, spraying liquid all over. The noise of the water pans from side to side, gets quieter and loud depending on the distance from you. I throw the can behind me, having the noise of it disappear into nothing. A box filled with matches is heard. The matches shuffle around. I pick out one, strike it against the box. Light my cigarette. I inhale and exhale. I toss the still lit match. The sound of it moves in slow motion. The swirling of it gets louder, and louder until...BOOSH it hits the lighter fluid. Everything is set to flames. (I use a dubstep feel for this part) Everything is going crazy, the noises of the past start to unfreeze and I break the noises down. As in, I'm using glitch and other various tools to break the sounds into little bits show the inner working of them. Messing with their frequencies, sub and reese bass ripping and scratching through everything.
Eventually after a bunch of chaos, it ascends from a peaceful campfire with bongos, acoustic guitars, and steel drums playing. Maybe some singing can be thrown in.

So, there you have it.I apologize for the length.
"To find yourself, you must first lose yourself."
 

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zombicyckel
#2 Posted : 9/17/2012 11:42:27 PM

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Sounds amazing, great to have to Smile welscome


Also, I too looooooooove ambient. I imagine it being hard to master the art. And very beautiful poem
 
Ayaosa
#3 Posted : 9/18/2012 2:12:03 AM

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Thanks, man. C=
It is extremely complicated. I've been Messing with thiss jazz for soo long. I just need the musical talents of others to help my mind to be accurately translated.
"To find yourself, you must first lose yourself."
 
zombicyckel
#4 Posted : 9/18/2012 2:21:41 AM

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indeed, this might not be your style. but this is a nice dubstep/electronic/blues a nice combo. http://www.youtube.com/w...Nnzg&feature=related

But man, I really wanna learn how to do proper ambient. Not a big market for it though, but that doesnt matter. creating soul music would be perfectly fine by me and I guess for you too. Do you have any good suggestions for a complete noob how to start creating ambient?


Listen to this like everyday, spacemusic ambient. they got ALOT of good amibent. the coffebreak and sounds from the kitchen is the best episodes http://itunes.apple.com/...2-3-4-5/id179493747?mt=2 check it out if you got time over some day
 
Ayaosa
#5 Posted : 9/18/2012 9:29:59 AM

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I'm about to hit the hay, but I will definitely check those things out when I get up tomorrow.
Dubstep/blues? Sounds like it'll have some nice swing.
My recommendation to start out is to listen to your favorite artist(s) and pay attention to how they set up their songs. Try to not get too lost in the music(I have a real problem with that). Try to pick out the timing of the drums, and how they transition and other little things that make the songs whole. After that, download or buy a DAW(research that acronym if you don't know what it is), Reaper is a decent free one. Learn every aspect of the DAW you're working with. Figure out what plugins they have. And then learn how to use those. (Plug-ins could be synths or effects or mastering junk).
Most ambient/chillout tunes consist of pads, smooth analog synths, drums, and samples. Samples are vocal tracks, random noises and recording of cafes or cities or rain.
The best forum to go on to figure out all this stuff is kvraudio.com, They are all great people. They're very touchy about people asking questions on the wrong thread. So watch out for that. A good place for samples is freesound.org.
Lastly, the most important mindset to keep while making ambient/psybient type of music is the desire to explore every aspect of the sounds and noises your start your songs out with. It's really hard for me to do that though. I'm too much of a perfectionist and constantly not happy with a sound I made. So I stop making the skeleton of the song just to fix one kick drum noise or synth lead I made. But, when I cut that problem off I go on for hours exploring my plugins noises.
Well, it's sleep time. I'll let you know what I think of the links you sent me tomorrow. C=
Peace.
"To find yourself, you must first lose yourself."
 
Macre
#6 Posted : 9/18/2012 8:51:22 PM

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Welcome aboard Ayaosa Smile join in where you can and you'll be promoted in no time.

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zombicyckel
#7 Posted : 9/19/2012 3:01:43 PM

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Ayaosa wrote:
I'm about to hit the hay, but I will definitely check those things out when I get up tomorrow.
Dubstep/blues? Sounds like it'll have some nice swing.
My recommendation to start out is to listen to your favorite artist(s) and pay attention to how they set up their songs. Try to not get too lost in the music(I have a real problem with that). Try to pick out the timing of the drums, and how they transition and other little things that make the songs whole. After that, download or buy a DAW(research that acronym if you don't know what it is), Reaper is a decent free one. Learn every aspect of the DAW you're working with. Figure out what plugins they have. And then learn how to use those. (Plug-ins could be synths or effects or mastering junk).
Most ambient/chillout tunes consist of pads, smooth analog synths, drums, and samples. Samples are vocal tracks, random noises and recording of cafes or cities or rain.
The best forum to go on to figure out all this stuff is kvraudio.com, They are all great people. They're very touchy about people asking questions on the wrong thread. So watch out for that. A good place for samples is freesound.org.
Lastly, the most important mindset to keep while making ambient/psybient type of music is the desire to explore every aspect of the sounds and noises your start your songs out with. It's really hard for me to do that though. I'm too much of a perfectionist and constantly not happy with a sound I made. So I stop making the skeleton of the song just to fix one kick drum noise or synth lead I made. But, when I cut that problem off I go on for hours exploring my plugins noises.
Well, it's sleep time. I'll let you know what I think of the links you sent me tomorrow. C=
Peace.



Really thanks for sharing this, I will check out both websites now and see Smile glad for your reply
 
 
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