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arctuis
#1 Posted : 9/14/2012 7:28:56 AM

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ok. so swim just extracted some beautiful spice. he has only tried dmt one other time. very very low does 10 secs of visuals and extream nausea. second time. slightly lager dose mild visuals still nausea dry heaved 2 times didnt throw up got really hot and sweaty. this bothers swim very much the nausea is to overwhelming to be able to even precive or appreciate anything going on. is the higher the dose better. should i go for a one hitter quitter to break through i havent reached that point. also if swim re-xtals till its pure clear and uses a water device to vaporize it will that help the nausea. any pointers on the nausea thats the main issue
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#2 Posted : 9/14/2012 7:38:22 AM

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arctuis wrote:
ok. so swim just extracted some beautiful spice. he has only tried dmt one other time. very very low does 10 secs of visuals and extream nausea. second time. slightly lager dose mild visuals still nausea dry heaved 2 times didnt throw up got really hot and sweaty. this bothers swim very much the nausea is to overwhelming to be able to even precive or appreciate anything going on. is the higher the dose better. should i go for a one hitter quitter to break through i havent reached that point. also if swim re-xtals till its pure clear and uses a water device to vaporize it will that help the nausea. any pointers on the nausea thats the main issue


I've gotten nausea a few times from DMT. but more often then not i'm ok. I seem to do better when I haven't eaten in at least an hour before smoking. you may want to try re crystallizing your product to ensure there aren't any other products in there that could be causing it.

I also find I can make myself have nausea by worrying about it, maybe going in for a few hits you are comfortable with and just relax, try to unattach yourself from the thoughts that it will cause nausea.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/14/2012 9:39:20 AM

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If you're eating right before the experience, it tends to be nauseating, I've found for myself. However, if that's not the case, maybe your spice isn't pure enough. I had one similar problem with a batch and as it turned out it needed a re-x and some days to sit and ventilate (naptha still trapped in). The hot & sweaty feeling sounds like some naptha residues, or mimosa soup blended in with the final product. Do you get any headaches or anything like that? When ever I smoked tainted DMT, I distinctly remember having a feeling of dread when inhaling...different from clean spice, like I've just poisoned myself. A lip numbing sensation would accompany the whole scenario. Do you get any of that or just the nausea?
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#4 Posted : 9/14/2012 1:25:18 PM

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I find two things in general cause nausea from a smoked experience. The first is the dose is too large, but you say they were small doses, so this probably isn't your problem. The second would be burning spice. Burning spice severely increases the chances that your experience will be nauseating. What have you been using to smoke your spice? Vaporizing or improving your technique should reduce and/or eliminate the nausea.
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jillian1978
#5 Posted : 9/14/2012 5:53:48 PM
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oh no! I was waiting for this one as I have heard about nausea with other substances. It may just be par for the course for folks like me (I have not tried it but everything makes me nauseated). If my blood sugar drops too low I throw up. I should buy stock in Dramamine as I take so much of it as it's really the only sure fire thing to knock it out for me. I can't amagine dramamine would hurt an experience but I'm new and others may have better knowledge of antihistamines like Dramamine. If the nausea continues well past smoking I would take it but for me it takes 15 minutes to kick in (the dramamine that is). It also makes me super tired which stinks because I often have morning nausea. I often say nausea is my cross to bare so to speak Pleased at least recently
 
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#6 Posted : 9/14/2012 5:59:33 PM
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SeekerOfTruths wrote:
arctuis wrote:
ok. so swim just extracted some beautiful spice. he has only tried dmt one other time. very very low does 10 secs of visuals and extream nausea. second time. slightly lager dose mild visuals still nausea dry heaved 2 times didnt throw up got really hot and sweaty. this bothers swim very much the nausea is to overwhelming to be able to even precive or appreciate anything going on. is the higher the dose better. should i go for a one hitter quitter to break through i havent reached that point. also if swim re-xtals till its pure clear and uses a water device to vaporize it will that help the nausea. any pointers on the nausea thats the main issue


I've gotten nausea a few times from DMT. but more often then not i'm ok. I seem to do better when I haven't eaten in at least an hour before smoking. you may want to try re crystallizing your product to ensure there aren't any other products in there that could be causing it.

I also find I can make myself have nausea by worrying about it, maybe going in for a few hits you are comfortable with and just relax, try to unattach yourself from the thoughts that it will cause nausea.


Great point! Our GI tracks are lined with GABA receptors; same as our brains. When we are under stress and use up those reserves it effects our bowels. I recently came off a very large perscribed dose of anti anxiety medicine. I have never had so much nausea and irritable bowel in my life! Explains why some misguided Dr.s perscribe Benzodiazapines for irritable bowel.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/14/2012 9:50:48 PM

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jillian1978 wrote:


Great point! Our GI tracks are lined with GABA receptors; same as our brains. When we are under stress and use up those reserves it effects our bowels. I recently came off a very large perscribed dose of anti anxiety medicine. I have never had so much nausea and irritable bowel in my life! Explains why some misguided Dr.s perscribe Benzodiazapines for irritable bowel.


Why would you say misguided doctors? Do you have a better suggestion for intense pain mitigation for this chronic incurable illness?
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