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True Chaliponga? Or just chacruna... Options
 
zapped17
#1 Posted : 9/10/2012 1:50:39 PM

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Chaliponga is difficult to obtain via the internet. However, I recently found an online source for chaliponga and ordered a large amount of it. Not having used it yet (and being quite naive when it comes to any ayahuasca-related items), I am beginning to doubt if what I received is truly chaliponga - and not some other dried leaf (say, chacruna) sold under a false label.

Are there any salient differences between dried chaliponga leaf and dried chacruna? Any ways to distinguish the two?

The chaliponga I received is certainly a lighter shade of green - with some light browns/reds in there as well - and it has a very pungent and pleasant aroma.

Thanks for all the help!
 

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provo
#2 Posted : 9/12/2012 10:56:23 PM
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Well one thing you can do is proceed to experiential analysis (If you are looking for physical easily visible leaf differences you can probably disregard my post):

First try 5-10 (10 being quite strong) grams with your MAOI of choice, if it is quite active and strong then you have yourself true Diplopterys Cabrerana (Chaliponga).

If no noticeable effects are experienced slowly up the dose and you should start to have effects around 50g with traditional Psychotria Viridis (Chacruna)

Other than that you could use the Latin names I have provided and google images to attempt to differentiate, but in my experience samples can be extremely variable and therefore hard to distinguish definitely.

Use caution though, if you do decide that what you have is Chacruna and proceeed to take ~50g, had you been wrong you will be on a very, very high dose of Chaliponga. (usual dose of Chaliponga is 2 to 15g)

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#3 Posted : 9/13/2012 5:03:33 PM

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I think chaliponga should have a very pointy tip on the very end of the leaf.
Its in your head

 
 
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