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URBY
#1 Posted : 9/11/2012 4:58:06 PM

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I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

I know I stirred the pot pretty hard last night.

Thank you all again for participating.

Especially you Albert! You never really gave any counterpoints but you certainly fed the fire. THANK YOU
 

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#2 Posted : 9/11/2012 5:07:46 PM

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I find you very interesting.
I really don't want to give counterpoints.



You mentioned 2 salvia experiences, and state that you have very limited experience with mind expanding drugs.

I am not aware of if you have or have not tried DMT... however you did say that you have been having spontaneous DMT like experiences without any drug. Have you done DMT?

I see you brought up David Icke, have you been reading his work?

You say that there is an ascension, may I ask if you have a time frame for this?

If for example it does not occur within a specific time frame, will you ever believe that perhaps you were wrong? Conversely I can say that if you give me a timeframe, and it happens in that time frame, I would have zero problems saying you were right.

I don't know you well enough to have an attachment to you, so I can't say I love you, but I am beginning to like you.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/11/2012 7:50:48 PM

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I have not tried DMT. That is a huge reason I chose this place to speak when it was shown to me. The descriptions of its users and of mine are very similar to each other.

I was researching an ENTIRELY different subject when the nexus presented itself to me. I was not told about it by any person or being. It showed up in my digging and here I am. I felt drawn, welcomed by what I found here.

Yes, I have looked into Mr Icke's writings and "teachings". He is a bit of a sensationalist (not too much unlike me last night but I have calmed myself since) to really draw me in but ALOT of what he is saying is true. I wont get into what in this reply but I will draw parallels between our respective perspectives if asked.

What I am saying could very well be DEAD WRONG in regards to some but it is not to me. My resolve and passion make that pretty clear. These opinions are described in absolute terms but that is to provide a SOLID construct(idea) to be examined by the many people here. Like building a playhouse out of cement rather than wet sand.

I dont wish to force any of this on any body. Noone MUST click that link and read what I have to say, Ive been repeating that in various ways from the start.

I wish to draw attention to the subject. Where our attention goes, our energy flows. I want other (positive)opinions to help shape what I believe. I want other (negative)opinions to show up so THEY can be discussed, confirmed, shaped, and dismissed by way of "fleshing them out".

Yes, what I am saying is RADICAL. Yes, what I am saying is BLASPHEMY to some. Yes, it is many things people dont like to admit. Yes, it is more than some people even have the ability to understand.

But I want to talk about it. I NEED to hear the voices of those that do understand where I am coming from with this. It is NOT the full picture. It is NOT all there is. It IS important to me.

Please dont see me as mentally wounded by it or unstable. Come to me with your thoughts on it and I will absorb and consider them. I only ask that everyone return the favor
 
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#4 Posted : 9/12/2012 12:48:09 AM

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Since you have not experienced DMT, you won't mind if I have a problem with you stating that you have experienced DMT like states.

I would not say that what you are saying is blasphemy or radical at all, far from it. It perfectly fits a specific type of personality and behavior pattern. It is even to be expected from a small minority of people.


I do have a question, have you ever experienced a traumatic event?
 
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#5 Posted : 9/12/2012 1:06:20 AM

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Death by drowning at the age of 3. a ford f150 once collided into the driver door of my 88 camaro at 60+ miles per hour. I literally walked away with minor scratches from glass debris and that alone. I heard the impact. I did not feel it.

It has been brought to my attention that when I 'trip' I never leave my energy body. only my physical one.

The DMT experience is to a MUCH higher frequency than what I experience. Let it be known I have not traveled as deep as a DMT user and I will no longer claim to have done so.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/12/2012 1:46:28 AM

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Well, as a DMT user, but one who can only speak for themselves, I can't say that DMT caused me to travel "deep" in any way.

I do not understand what you are talking about frequency, for me DMT just changes the filters of perception in a way that is predictable when it comes down to neurochemistry.

I do not advocate it being a spirit molecule, or involving deities or dimensions. It may well involve those things, but that simply has not been my experience.

In my case at least, you very well may travel "deeper".

 
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#7 Posted : 9/12/2012 3:23:33 AM

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AlbertKLloyd wrote:
Well, as a DMT user, but one who can only speak for themselves, I can't say that DMT caused me to travel "deep" in any way.

I do not understand what you are talking about frequency, for me DMT just changes the filters of perception in a way that is predictable when it comes down to neurochemistry.

I do not advocate it being a spirit molecule, or involving deities or dimensions. It may well involve those things, but that simply has not been my experience.

In my case at least, you very well may travel "deeper".



Deep was a very poor choice of word indeed. In the terms of my construct you travel to 'higher' frequencies, densities, dimensions than my "tuner" has been in contact with. You have perceived things I cannot perceive. The beings you have met are of a higher order than most of the ones I have been in contact with.

Filters is absolutely the correct term.

thought: The divine light travels through whatever filters before it reaches the central sun of our galaxy, then to our sun, then to us. The light is broken down through the "filters" or "lenses" that are those two suns are. I cannot claim to grasp any more than that.


 
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#8 Posted : 9/12/2012 4:59:06 AM

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Given the amazing inventive power of our brains demonstrated by their construction of the reality we normally experience, it seems strange to me that people attach such certainty to their experiences in alternate ones. Why aren't you more skeptical?
 
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#9 Posted : 9/12/2012 9:42:28 AM

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URBY
Have you heard of Nassim Haramein ?

If not I would urge you to check his vids on you tube and his websites.
Especially watch 'Black Whole' vid.

If you havn't come across him yet, he may just help with your model... or knock it sideways Very happy
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#10 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:23:31 PM

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Dropping names of crackpots isn't going to help someone so susceptible to the influence of people who pretend they are researchers and scientists when they are anything but.

 
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#11 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:48:36 PM

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AlbertKLloyd wrote:

Dropping names of crackpots isn't going to help someone so susceptible to the influence of people.


Why not? Maybe a susceptible person can benefit from having their current model 'derailed' and pushed in a new direction.
If their current model then collapses in favour of new thoughts, that may be of help.
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#12 Posted : 9/12/2012 4:26:48 PM

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ok.
I stand corrected.
 
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#13 Posted : 9/12/2012 9:35:56 PM

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Cyb,

Thank you for the suggestion, I will check it out.

Not like Im asking anything different.
 
 
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