Hello guys!

I have a question about your pharmahuasca experiences effects and duration. How long does pharmahuasca last for you? And if you could draw a graphic of the experience effects, how would it look?

I explain myself better. I usually use dmt fumarate (full spectrum extracted with a mix of lime tek and blab) and harmale freebase (gibran2 tek from caapi). What i have find to consistently work it's dissolving 200 mg of harmala freebase in some lemon juice (effectively converting them i harmala citrate i think?) and then immediately after ingesting them, drink the dmt fumarate mixed in warm water.

Now, i've tried eating the harmala freebase as is, at the same time or 20/30 min prior to drinking the dmt, and i've had disappointing results. Reason for this is, i think, the absorbtion rate of freebase change compared to citrate, completely messing the dosage timing. So for the sake of easyness, now i mix them with lemon ant take the dmt at the same time, and it works everytime.

BUT.

I've read lot of people talking about 4,5, 6, 7!!! hours worth of experience. Well, that's not what i've found. In my case the duration and effects timing resemble a stretched smoked dmt experience.

Usually, 10 min max after i've drank the two liquid, the experience start at full blast, like one second in normal, and immediately after, from nothing, it starts coming up like a rocket, you know, head exploding fast. And it's a bit strange, because it makes you wonder.. God, if it start like this im' going to be insane in another 10 min... But then it remain about at the same level for 30 min, rapidly decrease in the course of another 1/1.30 h, and then im baseline like i haven't trip at all, no after effects, no mindfuck, nothing, it disappear as fast as it come.

So... How long does last for you? Do you experience the same coming up and coming down speed as me? Could be that the combination of fumarate and harmala citrate is absorbed fast, giving a the full blast of effects in 10 min top, and then down to baseline, making the experience similar to smoked dmt + harmala?

Any opinion, experience, or anything is welcome, if anything for the joy of discussion.

Cheers

The trick is to smoke some DMT after it's set in a bit. It really kick starts things to the next level for around an hour, and then if it's ending too early for you, and you'd like to make it longer or whatnot, you can just take another toke or two and be off and flying for a while again. Eventually as the pharma begins genuinely wearing off, the DMT hits won't get you as far or for as long. My trips usually last anywhere from 4-8 hours. Some words of caution are you'll need to smoke less DMT than normal to get significantly further than normal, and also that it has an ever-so slightly delayed onset as compared with smoking from a sober(ish) state. Whereas DMT normally hits me practically instantaneously while I'm still holding in my hit, on pharma it usually starts kicking like 15 seconds after I've exhaled. But man watch out, cause you're due for the ride of your life