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#141 Posted : 9/10/2012 4:01:46 PM
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I use a glass bong it is small,holds a few ounces of water and only cost $20-$30.Do not use a straight glass weed pipe you will most likely burn your mouth on hot melted DMT.

When you load your bowl put a thick layer of ashes then a small amount of herb,then put dmt and another thin layer of ash on top the dmt,and a small bit of herbs to top it off.It might seem like overkill with the layers but when using a pipe you need to take extra care or you will melt and lose your spice while trying to smoke it.One last thing is to be very careful with the lighter not too much heat at once.

Making enhanced leaf or herb may be another option as it is much easier to smoke than freebase.

I'm sure you will find a method that works for you good luck.Smile
 

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#142 Posted : 9/10/2012 4:15:48 PM
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You can, but preferably make some enhanced leaf or changa Thumbs up

 
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#143 Posted : 9/10/2012 8:13:10 PM
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I don't really know how to use a bong, I have one but it doesn't work right. I wouldn't want to use weed maybe I'd use mullein or blue lotus to make the herb bed, I dont have access to any ash and isn't it unhealthy to smoke ash? How do you make changa? And should the lighter touch the herb bed directly, or should I just hover the lighter above the bowl? Is it possible to use a non bong bowl without burning my throat/mouth? Because the last time I used a bong (with just weed) I definitely burned my throat.
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#144 Posted : 9/10/2012 8:13:39 PM
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And with changa can the flame directly touch the herb?
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#145 Posted : 9/12/2012 1:07:22 PM
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The reason I suggested the bong was,if any solid materials make it through the screen and into the pipe they will be caught in the water/chamber of the bong.

I use ashes from cigarettes or smoked herbs,the ash is completely spent so no harm in using it.The ash and herb or leaf is just to help catch anything that melts and keep it in the bowl.

With changa yes you should be able to touch the flame,but dont overdo it. Just enough to keep the pipe smoking is good.
 
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#146 Posted : 9/12/2012 1:48:45 PM

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I have been doing my research, but of course there are so many opinions...

Which is better and/or more effective - b. caapi or syrian rue?

If I had to choose one of the two (assuming I do) for my first pharma experience, which would work better for me?

It seems as though the rue is simpler?...

As Fractalyzed said:

"Syrian Rue is quite powerful. I'd start off with 3g of Rue only.
To make the tea, it's a lot easier than caapi.

Simmer (dont boil) 3g of ground up Rue for about 20-30 minutes, strain it, and drink it.

I wait about an hour after tea ingestion to smoke Changa. Prolongs and slows down the trip and greatly adds its own feel to it."


Also, if I made a tea from syrian rue, are there any suggestions to the foilage one would use for changa?


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#147 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:00:03 PM

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DisEmbodied wrote:
Which is better and/or more effective - b. caapi or syrian rue?


neither, they are different

DisEmbodied wrote:
If I had to choose one of the two (assuming I do) for my first pharma experience, which would work better for me?


no one can say which will work better for you, you will have to work that out for yourself

DisEmbodied wrote:
It seems as though the rue is simpler?...


i think they are equally simple, its just boiling things in a pot, 1 just takes longer than the other

DisEmbodied wrote:
Simmer (dont boil) 3g of ground up Rue for about 20-30 minutes, strain it, and drink it.


i would boil for longer than that and reduce afterwards

DisEmbodied wrote:
Also, if I made a tea from syrian rue, are there any suggestions to the foilage one would use for changa?.


i would use mullien





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#148 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:16:18 PM

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If one was to do changa or pharma even once, of course using an MAOI inhibitor, should one follow such a strict diet as found on Erowid:

http://www.erowid.org/ch.../maois/maois_info2.shtml


And if so, then for how long?


Thanks!
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#149 Posted : 9/12/2012 2:24:53 PM

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And is this dietary restriction necessary for only drinking the tea and not for smoking?

Thanks!
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#150 Posted : 9/12/2012 3:07:34 PM

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#151 Posted : 9/13/2012 2:14:44 PM

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Hi . In order to extend my Spice trip´s I get some Caapi and some Syrian Rue seeds. In a near future I expect to extract the alkaloids from them, but at the moment I want to know if is possible(and how to do it) to make a tea or what is the best ingestion rute without taking out the alkaloids.
The other question is what is the best method of preserving the DMT? Leting it in the MHRB powder or in his FB state? As far as I know making some salt is the best method,but I already have FB and the plant material. I will apreciete any help! TKS
 
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#152 Posted : 9/16/2012 1:22:48 AM

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QT1QT1's tek calls for the use of lime instead of lye. Will using lime in a STB produce the same results?
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#153 Posted : 9/18/2012 4:38:58 PM
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Greetings everyone,

I've been a long time reader of this forum but I've never been registered to post before. I've been fascinated by all the stories and trip reports from everyone here and the epiphanies and breakthroughs you all have had while on DMT.

SWIM has never tried any psychedelics before, and has been told many times to avoid DMT because of it's immense potency; That this is something not to be taken lightly. Although SWIM is a bit hesitant of the fact that he has no experience, he understands and respects this substance.

SWIM recently got a hold of some freebase DMT and was planning to jump into the void with a friend, and a sitter in about 2 weeks. This is something SWIM really wants to experience, and hopes to learn more about himself and the universe he is a part of.

What I'm asking on behalf of SWIM is: How can he smoke this DMT properly to get the most out of it? What should he do to prepare before the trip, and what should he expect to find in the void?

Thank you so much for the help guys,
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#154 Posted : 9/18/2012 5:00:13 PM

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#155 Posted : 9/18/2012 10:01:56 PM

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I'm curious. Do we have guidelines for storing MHRB over the medium-long term?

Found a few references outside of the Nexus but interested in what people here have to say!
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#156 Posted : 9/18/2012 10:06:16 PM

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#157 Posted : 9/19/2012 6:19:06 PM
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performed a simple stb extraction i found on drugs-forum.com it goes like this...
http://www.drugs-forum.c....php?p=665795#post665795

i followed all the steps and i got very dark red/brown naphtha, the first pull of naphtha was kinda yellowish but the 2,3,4 pulls were dark as fuck. i gave it a sodium carbonate wash and it did help to reduce the color and lighten it, it looked honey/amber/orange when i placed it in the freezer. did i fuck up the process or what the fuck did i do? ive done dmt extractions before and it never came out like that. i used powdered mhrb. can someone please help me or shed some light on this shit? what can i do to solve this problem? i just need help asap i dont know what to do and im afraid ive fucked it all up

this is what my shit looked like, i have already placed it in the freezer since last night at around 9 pm.


 
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#158 Posted : 9/19/2012 6:26:59 PM
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Don't panic, don't throw anything away....the spice is in there somewhere. While I don't have your answer, I'm sure there is someone here qualified to help you sort things out...

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#159 Posted : 9/19/2012 6:29:14 PM
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yea i know, the only shit i dumped was the gunk/goo that was left at the bottom of the jugs once i performed the sodium carbonate wash....i only performed 2 washes tho cuz i didnt know you could do more washes. someone with extensive knowledge with this shit help me out please
 
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#160 Posted : 9/19/2012 7:39:55 PM
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Man can anyone please help me? i think i performed the sodium carb wash wrong....i mixed about .5 g of sodium carbonate and about 50 mls of water, i squirted that into the naphtha and shook for about a minute and then afterwards i poured the naptha onto a new jug, at the very end of the jug that the naphtha was in in the first place there was orange gunk i threw that out and repeated the process 2 times. then i poured a bit of cold tap water in the naphtha and decanted that and thats how i ended up with the orange/amber naphtha. its been in the freezer for 15-16 hrs and the naphtha is now a light orangeish color and theres a lot of dark sediment at the bottom, what the fuck do i do please please please help. how do i do a sodium carbonate wash? and what should i do to fix this.....is this even fixable or just plain fucked.....please help im very worried
 
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