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#1 Posted : 9/2/2012 8:45:53 PM
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Im wondering if anyone has experienced something very similar to this or exactly this. During my last 2 breakthroughs towards the end of the trips I saw what appeared to be constantly changing and morphing objects that were made up of thousands of regular objects. By regular objects I mean stuff we see in normal reality. This could vary from a car to a toothbrush to a flower to something as large as a mountain range or landscape. The defining factor though was that the object itself was a beautiful culmination of all the other objects. I find that I can "zoom in" my focus in the DMT space infinitely, and no matter how close I zoom into an object, it keeps up the complexity and ever-changing nature of itself. Its quite beautiful and always puts me in an awesome trance. I think part of why the objects are there are to try and help one get "grounded" in the DMT space. I always feel like the floor has been dropped from beneath my feet when I blast off, and whenever my attention gets ahold of one of these objects I become more and more lucid and calm.
 

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#2 Posted : 9/2/2012 9:12:50 PM

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Yes, the ever changing impossible objects are common I think.

Terrence Mckenna used "Faberge Eggs" to describe them..

Sometimes it reminds me of Rubik's Cube. Or also like these objects:



In a way the "impossible cube" held by the person in this drawing by Escher also reminds me of them:




If they mean anything, there is a lesson or a point to these objects I dont know, but I guess if they calm you down that's a good thing Smile
 
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#3 Posted : 9/2/2012 11:28:06 PM
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Im pretty sure the impossible changing objects are the point of dmt Pleased I'm not sure I've seen them as you've described though. Aside from the humanoids they're mainly just impossible geometric shapes that don't exist in this dimension. For example a couple dmt trips back I saw a row of tesserracts which then morphed in unison. I didn't even know what that was at the time so it's kind of intriguing that my mind was already aware of such a complex figure before I ever read about it.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/3/2012 4:02:40 AM

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That kind of hypercomplex, ever-evolving geometric stuff is indeed part of the territory. And much of it seems to follow rules of geometry that don't apply here in 3D space, hence the term "hyperspace".

I've never seen these things made of everyday objects such as cars and mountain ranges. It could be that your left brain is simply scrambling to find any description that fits, so if a shape is vaguely car-like, your brain tells you, "car".

My impression is that these objects, as well as the surrounding environmental details, are all some kind of a graphing of the contents of your mind at that moment. As you approach your peak, the geometric detail increases and complexities, representing your accelerating and complexifying mental environment. The geometry itself is linguistic in nature and tends to be rich with inherent meaning when you look at it, revealing deep and obvious truths about your self and your existence. It is this combination of traits that makes this stuff so astonishing to look at.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/5/2012 4:55:26 AM

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Guyomech wrote:
That kind of hypercomplex, ever-evolving geometric stuff is indeed part of the territory. And much of it seems to follow rules of geometry that don't apply here in 3D space, hence the term "hyperspace".

I've never seen these things made of everyday objects such as cars and mountain ranges. It could be that your left brain is simply scrambling to find any description that fits, so if a shape is vaguely car-like, your brain tells you, "car".

My impression is that these objects, as well as the surrounding environmental details, are all some kind of a graphing of the contents of your mind at that moment. As you approach your peak, the geometric detail increases and complexities, representing your accelerating and complexifying mental environment. The geometry itself is linguistic in nature and tends to be rich with inherent meaning when you look at it, revealing deep and obvious truths about your self and your existence. It is this combination of traits that makes this stuff so astonishing to look at.



I agree 100% here. Humans are great at finding patterns and meaning where there is randomness. I will concede I feel strong 'being' like feelings sometimes, but I still think that it my mind making sense of a barrage of sensory input.

Where I might see jesus you might see an alien and someone else might have seen a cascade of mountains. Just my 0.02
 
 
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