Journeyman
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Next month I'm camping with 2 close friends. We're all experienced with dmt , lsd and mushrooms . My last mescaline trip was with 400 mg. For this trip I was thinking of dosing 1 gram of mescaline acetate per person. The other two have never taken mescaline , do you think 1 g is too high a dose? We're looking for a powerful experience but don't want to be irresponsible.
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galulyah
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Camping? All experienced? Go for it!
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סנדלפון
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one gram is alot for some folks...you may want to start with 500 and then if that isn't good after 4 hours take the other 500. works better for nausea if you stagger the dosage anyways. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
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huachumancer
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id say increase your dosage incrementally per person. if youre experienced with 400, try 600 ( i worked up 200-300 at a time) if your friends are used to 200, obviously 1 g is going to annihilate them. probably try to get the a bit more experienced if they havent trid 600-700 yet
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DMT-Nexus member
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depends on the purity, most acetates i see are fairly impure.
highly recommend a relatively sober sitter if doing anything near 1g of pure extract, seriously
have fun
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DMT-Nexus member
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700 is intense and manageable by the country side, would not take it in the city... im just a blue reindeer, dont listen to me, listen to her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ABIkH7m0s
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"No, seriously"
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dg wrote:depends on the purity, most acetates i see are fairly impure.
^ This. So take purity into account. I have extracted from San Pedro before, where the end result clearly had less than the desired amount of mescaline. Even more as a gram of it was an underperforming session. Kind regards, The Traveler
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Journeyman
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dg wrote:depends on the purity, most acetates i see are fairly impure.
Why would using acetic acid over hcl create a more potent end product?
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huachumancer
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acetates are typically harder to clean and the acetic acid typically gives a more "full spectrum" alkaloid profile unlike what seems to be a more selective hcl salting. personally i dont feel the acetates are full spectrum but i do feel like they are closer than hcl.
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Journeyman
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Just returned home from this camping trip. We each dosed 800 mg acetate. After 1.5 hrs the effects were barely noticeable, so we took a 200 mg booster. Still, no change.
I'm confused why this trip was so light? I at 400 mg last month and it was much stronger. We fasted for 10 hrs before. It was in gel caps. We took some oral harmalas the night before. I was wondering if that could of held back the effects?
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huachumancer
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by some odd stroke, were you at a festival?
back to the query, harmalas have no negative tolerence effects to cacti, infact they may deepen the experience having recently done them.
acetic mescaline is great for the food safeness, but lets be honest. salting with 1.5-2% hcl and cleaning your product many times will probably be just as food safe as eating a gram of acetic acid with 100 mg of mescaline thrown in...
hcl>acetates due to the simplicity of cleaning and the awe of the product. ive taken 600 mg of mesc and at one point questioned if i was tripping, that was the last time i messed with acetates, just not a fine of product imho. if you could get your hands on some glacial acid id reconsider acetates, but for now, my hcl and dry acetone is the best trick in my book
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DMT-Nexus member
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I tried some light tan mescaline hcl rougly 95% pure from san pedro a little while ago and it was a strong experience. Took 350mg and then 4 hrs in bumped up to 750mg. With mescaline dosage, its all about the purity. Full spectrum extracts can be very impure sometimes only containing 30% mescaline I have read in some reports, so you need alot bigger dosage. Any brown extracts can be cleaned with MEK or acetone, and you will see how much mescaline you really have. --------------------------------------------------*Kash's LSA Extraction* * Kash's Mescaline Extraction*------------------------------------------------------ All things I say are complete and utter ramblings of nonsense. Do not consider taking anything iterated from the depths of my subconsciousness rationally and/or seriously.
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DMT-Nexus member
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Just wondering, the 95 and 30% numbers are based on what ?
Btw I agree with the thoughts that mescaline hcl is easier to clean, store and dose than acetate. Fumarates from FASI/FASA precipitation is good too.
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