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Swinjin
#1 Posted : 9/1/2012 1:34:08 AM

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Hi. My friend has an extreme Q vaporizer and was wondering if one could use this to vaoprize spice? Also what temperature is recommended. thanks!


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#2 Posted : 9/1/2012 1:56:04 AM

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I've tried it before and it works pretty good with changa. Your going to want to have a separate whip/bowl piece for changa than for herb, i find a short whip with a 14mm gong male attachment on the other side put into a jhook, small bubbler, or small bong works best.

As far as temps, anywhere from 60-90C should do the job. DMT FB vaporizes at 60-80C, and a little bit over probably wont burn it. I'd just start at 60C and bump it up 5C at a time until you get nice vapor, then a few degrees more to ensure its hot enough.

Just be careful using crystal spice in it, even sandwiched between plant material, as it can melt and drip down on the heating element due to the upside down bowl design.

Don't use bags either, far more surface area/time the vapor is in contact with it, and your going to lose more to condensation than a narrow short vapor path. Like using a 6-12" whip with a 14mm gong attachment to a 14mm jhook, or small 14mm bubbler.

Bongs seem a bit overkill imho, and you'll prob lose the most to condensation with them after bags of course. Plus its easier to clean a small bubbler or jhook than a bong if you don't want to dedicate a piece of glass for dmt vaporizing.

Let us know how it works if you do try it, I've only done it a few times, but it worked pretty well with changa.



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#3 Posted : 9/1/2012 5:21:31 AM

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The Day Tripper wrote:
I've tried it before and it works pretty good with changa. Your going to want to have a separate whip/bowl piece for changa than for herb, i find a short whip with a 14mm gong male attachment on the other side put into a jhook, small bubbler, or small bong works best.

As far as temps, anywhere from 60-90C should do the job. DMT FB vaporizes at 60-80C, and a little bit over probably wont burn it. I'd just start at 60C and bump it up 5C at a time until you get nice vapor, then a few degrees more to ensure its hot enough.

Just be careful using crystal spice in it, even sandwiched between plant material, as it can melt and drip down on the heating element due to the upside down bowl design.

Don't use bags either, far more surface area/time the vapor is in contact with it, and your going to lose more to condensation than a narrow short vapor path. Like using a 6-12" whip with a 14mm gong attachment to a 14mm jhook, or small 14mm bubbler.

Bongs seem a bit overkill imho, and you'll prob lose the most to condensation with them after bags of course. Plus its easier to clean a small bubbler or jhook than a bong if you don't want to dedicate a piece of glass for dmt vaporizing.

Let us know how it works if you do try it, I've only done it a few times, but it worked pretty well with changa.





Thanks! I dont have changa so i will probably keep using my little glass pipe. thanks so much for the input though.
 
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#4 Posted : 10/4/2013 1:09:52 PM

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I have used the Extreme Q at temperatures around 140 C and it does not create any milky white vape. Even tried it at 110 C. The Vape starts to show at 150-155 C when using this vape.
I think I might be overly sensitive to the dmt vape cause even at temperatures around 155-160 I cough up the vape. I know how harsh the burnt smoke can taste but I just don't know if I still burn it but to a smaller degree mixed with vape when using the lower temperatures. I don't smoke anything else otherwise so maybe my lungs are just very sensitive.

I cut the volcano liquid pad into half and put into the glass cylinder.
Can anyone help me out. I Have only gotten weak launches. I want to really launch into hyperspace. I have wasted so much spice already.

I think my problem is that I can't hold the vape inside long enough. Can't figure out if its because of my sensitive lungs or because I manage to burn it despite the low temperatures that I have experimented with. The spice was white with a hint of yelow. It is clean as many others from the same batch had succefull launches.

The effects I have gotten are pretty vague compared to others I have read about. I get the crysantimum patterns. I have felt and seen the presence of other beings observing me sometimes doing something to me. Like fixing something in my body. But the "hallucinations" have been very vague. The strongest #most real# sensation was when a small being of light (it existed out of the colors of the rainbow which is pure white light) observed me. I could see it pretty clear and I was amazed by how beautiful it was. I really want to experience more of this but stronger.

So do anyone have any knowledge on how to launch of properly while using the extreme Q or maybe other electrical vaporizers that can be helpful in my journey to the DMT realms.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/4/2013 2:46:23 PM

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In contrast to what was stated earlier in this thread DMT freebase does NOT vaporizes around 60-80C.

The boiling point of DMT freebase seems to be around 160C and with a vaporizer you might want to set the temperature around 180C for a solid and constant vaporization.

I myself am testing with the Plenty vaporizer and using the liquid pad that you get with it, I can vape around 5-10mg of DMT in one pull, depending on your lung capacity and how deep you want to inhale. So to vape 25mg of DMT freebase with the Plenty you need around 3 deep pulls.


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#6 Posted : 10/4/2013 5:10:57 PM

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I own an extreme q vaporizer.

Changa does NOT work good in a vaporizer, any vaporizer, sorry to burst anyones bubble but harmalas vape very very poorly. It works kinda, and you get some changa effect, but it's really not that different from freebase and almost all the harmala alks stay in the plant material.

That said, enhanced leaf works phenomenally well! I got good vapor from enhanced leaf right around the same temp I get a good vape with cannabis which is 350-375F (176-190C).

I found the whip attachment cumbersome to use in that way, and found the bag attachment was much preferred as a delivery method. Before someone goes off about how you lose product to the sides of the bag, perhaps that's true, but the fine clean vapor you do get works really really well despite the mg or two you may lose to the side of the bag, it would be pretty darn hard to have a misfire with this method.

It is wise to heed the advice given earlier and use a separate bowl/tube/bag for vaping spice because it will retain the flavor and make your weed taste funny.
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