Other than having some fun time?

I wonder which great historical figures in politics, science and art secretly or overtly used DMT or other psychedelics (LSD, shrooms) as an important part of their life work.

it was to my understanding the man who created the idea of the double helix dna strand model was under the influence of lsd when he thought of the idea. dont hold me to that though.

well with lsd, Kary Mullis (sp?) who invented PCR, a VERY important technique to multiply small amounts of dna so that you can work with it, said he had his idea due to lsd and that he think he wouldnt have had it without it. He won a nobel prize for it

I think there was an interview with steve jobs, the dude from mac, and he said taking lsd was one of the three most important things in his life

I know several people that changed their lifes because of ayahuasca in special, from being alcoholics or full party people to very calm and healthy people.

I know also my life has changed for the best in many senses because of these substances.

there's plenty more examples for sure

FRANCIS CRICK, the Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, was under the influence of LSD when he first deduced the double-helix structure of DNA nearly 50 years ago.

"Steve talked about it, and so has Bill Gates," Markoff said of experimentation with LSD. Jobs said it was "one of the two or three most important experiences of his life, and as a result of those kinds of experiences, he (feels) set apart from some of the more buttoned down corporate America (types) that he deals with."

Perhaps not yet, but I hope all the SWIY's out there are working on it!

he didn't really deduce the structure. he (and his colleague watson) just finished the work of Rosalind Franklin, who really discovered the structure.

a lot of controversy exists with the discovery of DNA structure. Franklin was working with x-ray crystallography determination of DNA, but died of cancer before she could publish her findings. Watson and Crick finished the work, published it, and won the Nobel prize.

the technique of x-ray crystallography has nothing to do with LSD.

just something to think about.

I watched a ted.com video about creativity. Apperantly back on the 70's some of the great thinkers of that time got together and had a mescaline session. Alot of problem were figured out, philosophies made, and even pieces for the space shuttle were invented in that one session.

yeah

there's no doubt in my mind, that psychedelics tap into creativity. especially psilocin, mescalin, and lsd.

some contemporary agents for creative inspiration are the racetams.

"DMT is my anti-drug"

Seriously, DMT made all the other drugs that I once enjoyed (opiates, pot, cocaine, MDMA, etc) seem shallow and empty. Now they are used very rarely, and then only with a specific purpose in mind.

DMT is also a great motivator. During the come down I tend to get really introspective and this is when massive motivation flows into me and I undertake endevors that I normally would be too lazy to. This motivation usually lasts a few days...it's not a cure for laziness, but sure does help.

I get this from Ayahuasca, even a small dose, just enough to feel the effects, will give me days with the greatest positive attitude towards everyday life situations, that would normally leave me feeling like our world is in steep decline & picking up speed. A full-on Ayahuasca experience will do the same thing to me but for a longer time after the journey, 5-to-7 days.

I've never taken Prozac or any other anti-depressants (although sometimes I wonder if I should...), but from what people say about it, the Aya seems to give me something close to the same effect.
I'm guessing the Ayahuasca is better for me in the long run than any OTC-happy-pill anyway. And I don't have to have insurance to be able to afford it...

Smoked DMT does not have the same lingering, anti-depressant effect for me as proper Ayahuasca (Cappi+Chacruna-or-Chliponga) does.
Although smoked DMT with S.Rue MAOI left me in a good mood, it was rather short lived and I would call it extremely subtle in comparison.

I only wish I could (or would) be able to drink Aya more regularly!!


Cheers

WS

Drinking ayahuasca often requires dedication. But perhaps SWIY could get similar effects using the alkaloids without the bark. SWIM can get the lingering nice feeling from pharmahuasca too. Maybe eating them instead of smoking will work better. Maybe THH is important also and thus ayahuasca alkaloids would be needed. Who knows just throwing out some ideas.

Is there anyone here that uses DMT, shrooms or LSD for inspiration in their daily work?

I imagine artists, writers and musicians would benefit most directly from psychedelics, but pretty much any information-based profession could benefit from the increase in brain power and creativity that psychedelics provide (example: an engineer designing a new part, or a politician seeing a way forward in the implementation of a policy).

^^SWIM sometimes uses to enhance creativity in scientific ideas. Sometimes they are inspiring sometimes useless.

Whoa, if we're talking about LSD too the list of accomplishments is far and wide... the most important, computers. I've read many pioneer say the advanced graphics industry was essentially born due to lsd, all the early teams tripped balls for ideas. We know 60's and early 70's rock and roll was pure lsd, and that's why rock totally sucks right now. We can also deduce much art and literature was done under or due to the influence.. which would explain why most art and literature is about war and crime and other putrid parts of conscious experience now, in a time of relative peace.

I personally think the war on drugs killed modern culture, it destroyed thinking WAY outside the box, now outside the box really means slightly odd but still inside the set parametres.

As for DMT, I think it's up to us to figure out what it's good for. It's incredible for raising seretonin or whatever it does that lifts my spirits, and I know it's good for sparking thoughts about science/physics/chemistry/supernatural/metaphysics... i would guess within a setting it might be good for memory, perhaps waking up photographic memory abilities, perception enhancements, etc...

Hey, i'll tell you salvia cured me from a world of ills on it's first dose.. by re-awakening long lost memories my entire life was put into context. Basically i remembered early early baby memories, and by pinpointing those early memories and how the people around me were, i could see how i turned into who i was... many questions were answered.

I don't think it's wise to assume that you'd achieve anything because of a substance. No matter what that substance is. I believe DMT gave me a lot. But not something that i would not have been able to see without it.
If indeed DMT would allow us to achieve more, than at least within western civilization you would expect to see a historic sort of divide between the pre-DMT ages and the post-DMT age.
I don't really see such a gap. But maybe it's too soon yet for such a historic perspective.

well i can safely say that I had extreme from-one-day-to-the-other kind of changes that yes were due to substances. Im not going into the discussion whether with psychedelics we see other dimensions or if its all in our mind, that's something else. What im saying is that I was one person and a few hours later when effects wore off, a lot of very significant practical things had changed, and there are no other paralells in my life where such changes happened in that level. Sure we all learn and change normally but I really think that it can accelerate things. I know it did for me at least

I dont think the fact that the world has not gotten more enlightened suddenly 'proves' its not the substance, anymore than if we gave microscopes to the blind and they couldnt use it would 'prove' that the microscope is not responsible for many breakthroughs in biology for example.

I have had such experiences that i would call life-changing as well. But i'm critical. I don't believe that there's any way to tell whether it really contributes that much. I think that it's more a sort of becoming aware of changes that where already taking place anyway.
I have made plenty of mistakes in my life. I don't believe that the use of DMT has diminished the relative amounts of mistakes i've made, amongst the range of all decissions i make on a daily basis.
On the other hand it's well known that ayahuasca contributes to the general health and well being (physically and mentally) of regular users.

Dock Ellis pitched a no hittr on LSD...

Thats rare.

My friend Fish scored the highest score on the DDR machine on LSD...

I can run cross country like a madman on LSD.