been curious if using some of this stuff called " recreational oxygen" might be an added thing to help with a clearer journey and fight fatigue. Has anyone ever tried a blast of oxygen before blasting off ? my thought is that it could help the trip. I have encountered problems sometimes with my physical body not being able to take the stress of a really strong blast to hyperspace. I've been steering more and more to better preperation of my body before hand. Diet and healthy living. Cappi Vine tea with spice can be a real body load for me. takes me a couple of days to recover.

the stuff i'm talking about is called boost oxygen. I saw it in a store one day and it started me thinking

anyway..

really no thoughts?

A friend of mine tried it once and was fairly unimpressed. He thought of it to be more recreational. No Idea how it relates to spice launches. If you got the cash and time, why not be a pioneer?

To inhale oxygen in a larger amount than in normal air, is very damaging for your lungs. Your lung capacity will drop around 3% after one treatment with Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy, an oxygen treatment done to better blood circulation in order to heal wounds faster, that lasts around 15 to 90 minutes. Although it will take quite a large amount of oxygen inhales to damage your lungs, you should be cautious.

To inhale pure oxygen is extremely damaging. Never attempt that! If you choose to use oxygen, you should mix it with normal air in order to save your lungs. My advice is to breathe normal air, not oxygen rich air. Breathe deep and slow, it will do the trick. Your lungs are very important.

That's silly. Of course pure oxygen doesn't damage your lungs.

Uh, no, it is not silly. Oxygen can be toxic if present in larger amounts than the usual 21%. 50% and more cause slow damage to your lungs, and may also be damaging over time to the CNS and your eyes. It probably will not damage you the first or fifth time, but there is no good idea to play around... Instead of heightening the amount of oxygen you breathe in, why not heighten the amount of total air you breathe in? Long, deep breaths over a few minutes will do what you want.

Oxygen is also toxic at depths (greater pressures). Any diver will tell you that.

opening up an old thread.
but instead of taking a "blast" of oxygen, you could wear an oxygen mask. while you are still breathing normal 21% oxygenated air, the mask has a slow steady leak of oxygen to bump up that 21%. it does not take much oxygen to feel the difference, at 25% you'll feel very alive, but still not harmful to the body as far as i know. that should make for quite the trip imo

and yes as stated above, pure oxygen is toxic to the human body.

never heard that hyperbaric chambers can be damaging or dangerous if used right.

Are you sure what you are writing is correct?

Inhaling Oxygen before launch? Sounds like a very good idea, I had toyed with similar but don't have access to the bottled stuff, so I'd have to crack my own via electrolysis, store it in bags then have a big suck. Just haven't had time to try this yet.

Lung damage from pure 100% oxygen ? True if you breathe it for hours, but I doubt one or two
lung fulls are going to do much damage, particularly if followed by a period of decreased
respiration. Hyperbaric oxygen is delivered under pressure, in a special chamber, so unless
you plan to invest in such a chamber, hyperbaric conditions do not apply for most of us.

Another suggestion might be to dose up with Q10 for several days beforehand.
Oxygen is the slow path to ATP, which is really the energy molecule for the cells, and apparently Q10 can increase mitochondria efficiency and increase production/storage of ATP. It has been effective for some types of athletic performance, I believe mostly sprint sports?

I do agree that cellular energy stores get rapidly depleted by spice, leaving one drained afterwards - and diet / supplements / exercise are probably a counter for some of this.

One saftey comment I think worth mentioning, is the flammable nature of 02 - often lighters / smoking and 02 do not mix well, 02 tends to make everything burn - really really well. (funny bout that - oxidisation...)

I have heard fairly reliable stories of people literally catching
on fire - because they smoked with high % of oxygen in lungs / around them,
so if you are mucking around with pure 02 - BE CAREFUL WITH NAKED FLAMES !!!

Still - IMHO - there is merit in researching ways to boost cellular energy
stores prior to hyperspace travel, and a few breaths of 100% O2 might do the trick.

Perhaps it would be better to do the deep 02 breaths, then do 1 or 2 breaths of
normal air - so that the spice is not going into 100% 02 in your lungs.
Otherwise you might get a lot of oxidation of the spice, before it even
gets into your bloodstream?

Anyway - Good work that traveller...

Having used an oxygen bar while having an uncomfortable trip on shrooms at a festival, I can say that the oxygen bar really does help. It helps make you more alert, clear your head, and energizes you (in a similar way that racetams increase oxygen flow to the brain and cause the "better thinking" high, I think the increased oxygen emulates that). I took 4-AcO-DMT but foolishly added mephedrone and it caused me to feel very light-headed, slightly weaker, and uncomfortable. A couple hours later I remembered about how people who are OD'ing on a stimulant are given an oxygen mask (experience), I went to the oxygen bar and it immediately cleared up my shroom trip and made me feel much better and cleared up the lightheadedness/weakness.

Gingko is right- high concentration oxygen is toxic to the lungs and this is the case without administering it at a high pressure.Biochemically , O2 toxicity results from the production of toxic, highly reactive, partially reduced oxygen metabolites such as hydrogen peroxide and free radicals as a consequence of cell hyperoxia.Intracellular enyzme-based mechanisms exist to protect against their toxicity, but if these mechanisms are overwhelmed then toxicity will result.The end result is a reduced vital capacity, diffusion coefficient across the alveolar/capillary interface, and reduced lung compliance.

Recreational oxygen....


It's called holotropic breathing aka controlled hyperventilation. You don't need any apparatus, just breathe in and out deep and hard over and over again. Blast your body with air, entire body will tingle like crazy. It's very psychedelic with sustained inhalation and spice is not even needed to break through into hyperspace.

It's dangerous? But, local shops sell oxygen at oxygen bars? Are these levels of oxygen NOT harmful? It would be disappointing but not surprising that it's sold by legal people.

Yea, it's almost a light headedness.

afaik oxygen toxicity results from long term exposure to higher concentrations of oxygen and only becomes immediately harmful to the lungs if breathed at a partial pressure of 1.6 bars - which is why scuba divers never dive with pure oxygen.

Pure oxygen (100% O2 @ 1 bar pressure) is actually administered to victims of almost drowning or diving accidents, because for it to damage your lungs it takes quite a while at that pressure.

Scuba divers often use "enriched air" with higher percentage of oxygen, which limits them concerning the depth - to not reach 1.6 bar partial pressure, and dive for 45 minutes or longer without any problems.

So while it's toxic, it's not like breathing in carbon monoxide...

dangit... well there goes mine and Dreamers plan to get rich selling canned oxygen to california yuppies :C

Hah

just can some nitrogen as well.

you could call it "plant breath"

i bet you there is a market for that. if you can sell blue glass bottles at $40 a pop because they "charge water with the sun's energy" you can sell canned air.