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What level trip am I having? Can't breakthru. Options
 
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#1 Posted : 8/18/2012 8:39:18 PM

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From what it sounds you should take one more enormous hit right when you felt you were being pulled. On another note, the emphasis on taking three hits from a well known individual was very good advise for SWIM.
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#2 Posted : 8/18/2012 10:06:23 PM

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3 hits is nonsense if you have a decent vaping device, if I took 3 hits from my GVG I think I would break myselfSurprised

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#3 Posted : 8/18/2012 10:37:56 PM

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If the usual advice of copper ribbon disc ect ext, are being followed then I would up the dose, but I wouldn't go from 40mg to 75mg, that's a big jump.
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#4 Posted : 8/18/2012 10:51:55 PM

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In that case I would load up 50mg and crack on.
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#5 Posted : 8/18/2012 11:19:47 PM

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There are quite a few threads on smoking technique. I would make absolutely sure you have your technique perfect before upping your dose. I can break through on 30-35mg, and I'm sure I waste a little of that dose. If you up it to 50 and then get a decent vape, you could be in for a shock! Good luck!
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#6 Posted : 8/18/2012 11:20:29 PM

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There are quite a few threads on smoking technique. I would make absolutely sure you have your technique perfect before upping your dose. I can break through on 30-35mg, and I'm sure I waste a little of that dose. If you up it to 50 and then get a decent vape, you could be in for a shock! Good luck!
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#7 Posted : 8/18/2012 11:56:13 PM

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You know yourself infinitely better than I! It's just that dmt is difficult to vape efficiently. If you're confident of your method then maybe you have a higher tolerance. Only one way to find out I suppose, I'm just saying err on the side of caution with this stuff, as it is truly unbelievably powerful.
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#8 Posted : 8/19/2012 12:03:37 AM
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Ok man. Thanks. I get what you are saying. Be careful. Smile
 
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#9 Posted : 8/19/2012 4:07:47 PM

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3rdI wrote:
If the usual advice of copper ribbon disc ect ext, are being followed then I would up the dose, but I wouldn't go from 40mg to 75mg, that's a big jump.


I also would not jump from 45-75 mgs. That's crazy actually. I'd try bumping it up to say 50mgs at most. That 5mgs could make a HUGE difference. For what it's worth I can have a full break through on just over 20mgs. Smile For what else it's worth, I don't find any gain going past 30mgs. In fact it gets very uncomfortable to me around 30mgs.

Learn to meditate if you don't already know how. It greatly facilitates using a smaller dose and holding onto the state once you are there. It also helps with detaching from what you are seeing in the event of a really bad trip.

Also, for what it's worth I've never not been aware on any psychedelic. When you break through you will still be aware, you just won't be identifying with your ego any more...but aware you will be.

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#10 Posted : 8/19/2012 6:59:56 PM

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behindthelight wrote:
right as I blew out the vapor

If you are blowing out vapour you’re wasting it!

For me it takes ~30mg to dissolve this reality. I found ~40mg very testing in the GVG, I don’t really like going up as far as that anymore.
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#11 Posted : 8/19/2012 7:16:27 PM

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behindthelight wrote:
20mgs huh? That is so awesome. I find it amazing that some people can breakthru on 20-30 and others need 50mg.

Thanks for the input.


When I take this dose size it takes me about 20-30 seconds to fully inhale it. It's a long slow pull on the vapor genie...I do not have GVG. I then hold it in until the visions have come on strong and close my eye's as I exhale. Start to exhale probably 1 minute....Seriously. I slow my breathing way down with pranayama and meditation before I begin. But yes when done in this fashion much smaller doses are needed....though to be sure I am on the lower dose size compared to many here.

If I take to large a dose > 30mgs it's like I fly right through hyperspace and either black out or white out...and not the good god head kind of white out. More like being stuck in a white void for years...very uncomfortable and not something I want to repeat.

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#12 Posted : 8/19/2012 9:35:06 PM

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behindthelight wrote:
d*l*b wrote:
behindthelight wrote:
right as I blew out the vapor

If you are blowing out vapour you’re wasting it!

For me it takes ~30mg to dissolve this reality. I found ~40mg very testing in the GVG, I don’t really like going up as far as that anymore.


I don't get what you mean. You can't hold it forever, you have to exhale.

I hold it for like 10 seconds and then I exhale. Maybe I need to hold it longer.

[Apart from the times I inhale and something feels very wrong, I lose courage and exhale Very happy ] I try and avoid letting any vapour out (GVG, single toke, 30–33mg). I don’t know how long this takes to absorb but it seems longer than 10 seconds. I do little test exhales if I can’t tell if it’s all absorbed. If a wisp comes out I breathe back in again.
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#13 Posted : 8/19/2012 9:43:00 PM

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Well, that might be part of the problem. I usually inhale my entire dose in about 3 seconds. I am gonna have to work on trying to slow it down


I think the important thing is getting your dose in a single hit, I would guess that if you can get the whole hit in 3 secs it would be better than taking it in 30secs.

Since you get the hit in 1 there is no need to exhale until you can't hold it any longer. I rarely remember exhaling.

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