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#21 Posted : 8/8/2012 4:38:39 PM

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I may wash, but is it necessary? What is a good dose? 1-2mg?

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#22 Posted : 8/8/2012 7:52:47 PM
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SWIM WOULD LIKE TO KNO RATIO FOR MHRB H20 naphta NaOH.
SWIM would also like to know wats an adequate amount to practie first time stb exaction
and what kind of yield should i look for from 150g mhrb

 
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#23 Posted : 8/8/2012 7:59:25 PM

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Welcome,

Everything you need to know can be easily found on the nexus wiki page.

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#24 Posted : 8/9/2012 4:03:50 PM

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So I've gotten all the pulls out of the bark that I'm gonna get. What should I do with the bark/lye liquid that is left just get rid of it????

Thanks

O yea I used. Nomans tek...
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#25 Posted : 8/9/2012 5:20:25 PM
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So im mid way thought Grrs guide and just done my first two pulls, *left lye n mhrb for 2 hours, did first pull then 30 mins later did second. going to wait two hours for 3rd then over night for fouth.

My question is am i doing the pulls the correct way? the tek was kinda vague and a few i looked at were the same.


Are you ment to add 75ml do the flipping and rotating for 2 mins let it sep then decant it off.

or add all the napatha 250ml and roll then take off 70ml per pul and leave the rest of the napatha during the 2 hour and over night.?
 
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#26 Posted : 8/9/2012 5:29:52 PM

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Zeul...did you check the FAQ?
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#27 Posted : 8/9/2012 5:45:51 PM
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I did read though it but still unsure, even that was still vague when it comes to the pulling part (it is detailed in all the other aspect of pulling apart from the part im referring too,

What would u suggest, mid way though so would like to know Smile
 
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#28 Posted : 8/9/2012 6:02:22 PM

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Zeul wrote:
Are you ment to add 75ml do the flipping and rotating for 2 mins let it sep then decant it off.

FAQ wrote:
100ml per pull per 200g bark (or a 2:1 ratio of bark:naphtha) is a sensible recomendation...Less solvent per pull is even better, as long as you repeat more pulls to compensate.


Zeul wrote:
or add all the napatha 250ml and roll then take off 70ml per pul and leave the rest of the napatha during the 2 hour and over night.?

FAQ wrote:
You can, but yield will be significantly smaller. Like washing clothes, its better to make more cycles with clean water then only using the same water for washing all clothes.
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Zeul
#29 Posted : 8/9/2012 7:18:54 PM
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ah got it. Apologises for wasting you time!
 
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#30 Posted : 8/10/2012 10:21:56 PM
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Swim was thinking about putting 100g of rue and 200g of mimosa in a 2 liter bottle and pouring boiling water in it and then letting it sit for a day. Then later filtering out the contents and putting the liquid in another 2 liter. Afterwords taking the plant matter and putting it back in said 2 liter bottle and filling it with enough boiling water to fill up the other one and shaking for roughly an hour or so. Then filtering again and filling up the first 2 liter bottle. Is this a viable option? Swim has heard that about 2.5g of rue and 5g of mimosa is enough for a good dose. Assuming that not all of the alkaloids will be extracted from the two in given time, will the brew still be potent. Swim would really appreciate any input. Thanks.
 
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#31 Posted : 8/10/2012 10:47:27 PM

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#32 Posted : 8/10/2012 11:00:13 PM
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Swim would like to know if 50ml would be a consistent medium dose for people assuming there is no purge and if the brewing on stove is necessary as it may not be feasible atm. Currently questioning if MAO will be sufficient and if it would be necessary to grind seeds as that may also be impossible. Swim knows that most cold water teks are saying 2 weeks or so for good effects but does not have that much time and had a habit of making dud brews when he used to boil them. Swim has not made any aya in a couple years but wants to know if 30 minutes would be long enough to extract most of the alkaloids from both. The mimosa is powdered.
 
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#33 Posted : 8/11/2012 12:56:18 AM

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Seems like there is a lot of confusion going on and misconceptions.... At least for me Embarrased Theroticaly speaking.... What would be the cleasnest/safest method of extracting DMT? I have noticed a lot of diffrent chemicals can be used. What kind of chemicals can someone get from lowes or walmart? Theroticaly speaking, growing mushrooms seemes a lot easier and safer since "MOST" everybody agreed on one set standered on growing. Which tek should be used? sooo manyShocked
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#34 Posted : 8/11/2012 4:57:55 PM

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Your basic STB tek is good for beginners.
The only chemicals you need are sodium hydroxide "lye" your base and naphtha your solvent.
Naphtha can be bought at lowes. The sodium hydroxide is probably going to need to be ordered off the net. You really want to find the purest you can get, stay away from the drain cleaners. Look for food grade lye, it very cheap.
After that you just need some root bark, mason jars, distilled water, and a turkey baster/pipettes and your ready to go.
I love growing mushrooms, its a very enjoyable hobby but i wouldn't say its easier than extracting spice.
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#35 Posted : 8/11/2012 10:19:46 PM

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Psyren wrote:
Your basic STB tek is good for beginners.
The only chemicals you need are sodium hydroxide "lye" your base and naphtha your solvent.
Naphtha can be bought at lowes. The sodium hydroxide is probably going to need to be ordered off the net. You really want to find the purest you can get, stay away from the drain cleaners. Look for food grade lye, it very cheap.
After that you just need some root bark, mason jars, distilled water, and a turkey baster/pipettes and your ready to go.
I love growing mushrooms, its a very enjoyable hobby but i wouldn't say its easier than extracting spice.



How pure will the spice be with STB?
after STB it seems like one would move to A/B extraction
How does one messure purity when getting spice?
with mushrooms it was pretty easy to tell a mushroom was good. Rolling eyes
From what I have read one would want a pipette b/c a turkey baster can cause BAD impuritys in the spice. Assuming the turkey baster was made from cheap plastic. I am looking for purity. Orange oil even with being food grade and naphtha seem like harsh chemicals. Excuess my ignorance. Love
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#36 Posted : 8/13/2012 5:46:21 PM
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Hey everybody im a newb here Stop . I would love to start off by saying everytime I had a personal question I would search this very forum and noticed you guys are the most reliable and your really on top of your sh*t.Big grin

But anyhow, Im considering to make my first ayahuasca tea made from B. caapi and mimosa. But my very question is after brewing both teas seperately in diffrent pots, when all is ready is it possible to combine both teas, and drink the mixture in one cup? rather then drink the b.caapi then 30 mins later the mimosa?? I dont have much knowledge with ayahuasca and help with this question would be great.

also, i know syrian rue is suppose to be the cheapest way to do it, but is it even comparable to the b. caapi vines??? Surprised
 
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#37 Posted : 8/13/2012 8:08:53 PM
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This is the tek I used: http://www.scribd.com/do...08165/STB-DMT-Extraction

I started out filling a 1 gallon plastic jug a little more than halfway with distilled water and added ~1 lb of lye. This was mixed and kept in a bucket of colder water to prevent too much heating, and was basically sitting in there for a few hours before I continued. I then added 1 lb of shredded/powdered Mexican root bark (primarily shredded!) from a well known vendor. This was allowed to sit for an hour, with vigorous shaking every 5-10 minutes. Rolling eyes I then added about half a liter of naptha and shook it up. The water in the bucket was replaced with hot water and the jug was allowed to sit in it to separate. After 45 minutes or so, the naptha was not very separated like the tek said. About half of what I put in was in a layer on the top, a deep yellow. I took this out and placed it in another jug. I then added the rest of the liter of naptha into the original MHRB jug and swished it around. I then cleaned the second jug with 2 sodium carbonate washes and allowed it to freeze precip in a jar for 24 hrs, but it wasn't saturated enough. Poured out the into a pyrex dish to evaporate overnight.

Now here's my problem. I don't have 1L of naptha pulled, I'm pretty sure the rest emulsified somehow. I plan on adding some water+lye to it and swirling it around in a few hours once I'm off of work, but what other ideas do you guys have? I'm also going to buy another liter of naptha just in case.

I'm not even sure how the first pull is going to do in the pyrex dish Confused

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#38 Posted : 8/13/2012 8:29:29 PM

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Hello berryman

Have you done a search for emulsions?

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3rdI wrote:
Hello berryman

Have you done a search for emulsions?



Yes, and I've read some of your tips. Warming the jug doesn't seem to do anything and I'm just wondering if adding lye+water would be a good next step...I don't want to dilute my solution too much or end up adding to much lye. Very new to all this Cool
 
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#40 Posted : 8/13/2012 8:42:06 PM

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Maybe you could just try the different methods of breaking the emulsion 1 at a time to see if any work, I'm sure one of them will.

And maybe run a smaller amount of bark next time, then if it goes wrong you won't have waisted very much bark. You would get a lot of DMT from a pound of bark.
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