I've not yet had a breakthrough experience, the closest I've been, was that I could definitely sense another reality underlying this one, but I was too overwhelmed from that alone to venture any further. I'm definitely planning on attempting to breakthrough next time 'round.

I've recently read about Banisteriopsis Caapi (Ayahuasca vine), and how it is viewed by many, to be a teaching plant, with an understanding of humans and concern for our well-being, un-rivalled by any other plant spirit. Whilst I have no experience of caapi, I personally view the psilocybin mushroom (which I have moderate experience with) as similar, in that I see it as a benevolent teaching spirit if treated with respect. With this in mind, I was considering going for my first breakthrough, after taking a low dose of mushrooms. My theory being, that the mushroom spirit will hopefully act as a teacher, guide or guardian (as it always has for me in the past), in much the same way the caapi spirit is said to for others.

Does this sound like a good idea, or would I be better off making some caapi tea instead? I'm not keen on the idea of breaking through without either shrooms or caapi (although I may try Syrian Rue as a teacher sometime if things work out that way).

Are you talking about smoking dmt on one or the other? It goes great with either. I would also make 10x caapi changa then vape that on mushrooms, it's lovely

Btw you can breakthrough in silent darkness on mushrooms by themselves if you eat enough

Both caapi and mushrooms are very very powerful teacher plants IMO, your not alone at all in your thinking there

i personally love mushrooms and have the utmost respect for them. they can be very kind to you if you go about it in the right way.

mushrooms definatly have a guiding teacher within them.

QFT

Especially when you grow them yourself


Also, for me, the visuals are nice and groovy, but the teaching comes straight to my mind... not through my senses so even lower dose non-visual trips are very deep as well IMHO.

IME cubies are more masculine, analytical and humorous, whereas aya is more feminine, intuitive and healing.

they are both wonderful teachers.

I never thought of it that way, but right on the money thanks

Psilocybin is definitely a powerful teacher and ally. It has been a major player in the evolution of human consciousness for ages. You can have a breakthrough experience with them with the correct intention, setting and dosage. I find psilocybin on par with spice. In fact, they are very similar chemically; psilocybin is actually 4-PO-DMT. I also wholly agree about the masculine/feminine comments, as well as the growing your own comment. Happy trails

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on the subject, you've given me a helpful boost of confidence prior to my next attempt (although I'm happy to say, I'm by no means over-confident about it)

I'll be vaping the DMT to start with and have just ordered some Ourinhos Caapi, to make tea with to go with it. I think I'll experiment, using different combinations of Caapi tea, vaped DMT and mushrooms to start. The Caapi spirit sounds so beneficial, that I really want to involve her in my next trip. I also want to try smoking changa with Caapi leaf (as universecannon kindly suggested) at some point, if the other methods work out okay. Then there's also oral DMT + Caapi soup, which I'm very interested in trying; so many different methods and combinations!

I've not yet broken through on mushrooms, a strong "level 3" trip, is the most I've experienced to date. I'm gradually working my way up to something, which one could perhaps equate to your average "+5 gram" experiences, the kind so often championed by the likes of Terence McKenna. So far, even at these lower doses I'm quite simply amazed by what I've found, and am tentatively looking forward to venturing further into this realm (one step at a time).

Also very glad to read the comment about growing your own

Go easy with combining mushrooms and caapi , the caapi can really ramp up the mushrooms by many orders of magnitude . You have to find the sweet spot .

I,m not advising against it just be attentive to measurements that's all .

MAOI + Fun Guys can be extraordinary, but like Felnik says, be prepared for a bigger experience than the same amount without. I learned this, I won't say, "The Hard Way" but I will say "The Deep Way".

2g experience became more like what I'm used to with maybe twice that much. It was the only time I broke through on mushrooms... my consciousness floating in a white void... alone in the universe...I'm just glad I had a place to take shelter. It turned out super-positive and cathartic... luckily.

That being said, I use some Syrian rue extract nearly every time I shroom now... it's just beautiful.

Good Luck!

I would suggest you work with caapi and oral DMT admixtures before caapi and mushrooms. You might assume caapi and mushrooms is like a milder version but it is not. Caapi and mushrooms are more likely to have you wishing for it to end IMO. Dont underestimate that combo and it can last much longer than traditional ayahuasca.

Point taken, thanks for the tips

I have an extremely low tolerance to mushrooms. From what I've gathered, it's somewhere around 2.5x lower, than that of the average person (I've even read of people with tolerances as much as 4x lower). Sorry for using trip levels as a description aid again, but normally on an empty stomach, just 1g of dried homegrown cubes will easily get me well into a Level 3 trip. With that in mind, I was thinking of just going with 0.25g (and certainly no more than 0.5g) for my first time mixing them with Caapi.

After reading several trip reports, however, as much as I value and respect the mushroom spirit, I think I'm going to leave it out of the DMT equation for the time being; I'll just go with vaped spice and Caapi tea for my next attempt. Once I've got to know the Caapi a bit better, I can always combine the two later, once I feel I'm ready.

Forgot to add, I'm also hoping to try oral DMT + Caapi tea over the next week or two, providing I get on okay with the vaped DMT + Caapi combo. Got a small amount of Caapi (100g) already, so going to start making the tea tomorrow.