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Maharanj
#1 Posted : 7/27/2012 12:09:00 PM

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I know there are allready plenty of threads about smoking dmt. But this really concerns me at the moment because i cant seem to get it right.

So i made my first three extractions (nomans tek - messed up the first one a bit, but the other two turned out ok i think). Got a few gramms of the white stuff now. The only problem is that i appear to be wasting alot of it.

So far i have tried 5 diffrent methods of smoking/vaping it in various doses from 20 up to 60milligramms. The best three methods so far were 50mg with my small glass bong (sandwich with mj, or copper pad + spice only), and 50mg with my volcano vaporizer. This gave me some medium-strong, purely hallucinogenic effects like moving patterns in a cyrcle around the center of view, which lasted for maybe 10minutes. No signs of other realities or any of those things one can read in various trip reports. I tried 60mg a few hours later with the volcano, yet did not feel a thing. Same with lower doses. Bong appears to burn some (alot?) of the dmt, taste made me want to vomit but effects were ok.

Tried vaping the spice with my glass pipe (its alot like a light bulb - place dose inside glass chamber, then heat from below). Does not seem to have any effect at all no matter the dose, tried 20-40mg. Seems to vaporize, but leaves brown residue behind.

Built a device similar to the machine. A bottomless bottle with tinfoil wrapped around & tiny holes inside for air circulation. Also tried 20 to 40mg, spice seems to vaporize properly, first turned into fluid then white vape leaving almost nothing behind. Again felt nothing.

Breathing technique cant be the problem i guess as i dont have troubles keeping the smoke in for 10secs. Maybe my lungs are too much tarred to absorb dmt, as a result of smoking mj for years? Just an idea..

Dont know if theres even such a thing as high tolerance or even immunity to dmt, but it may be worth noting my weird high tolerance with lsd. Now this has absolutely nothing to do with boasting, its just how it is. In the past i could eat several tabs and would feel literally nothing, while my buddies were high as hell from eating 1 or 2. I ate lsd maybe 15 times in my life, it did not matter if fluid or on paper i never felt a thing when ingesting it. Gave up on it and never tried it again since. Mushrooms are a diffrent story, they usually give me quite a nice trip Smile

I could really use some advice i think.


Edit: Sadly, buying a GVG is not an option at the moment, due to the troubles i got in with the law/customs for ordering mhrb. Nothing serious.. i just had to state my reasons for importing it. So i believe it would not be very wise to import a gvg at this point.
 

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smokerx
#2 Posted : 7/27/2012 6:27:17 PM

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make machine, use some copper or steal mesh and if used properly you will be in wonderland in no time Smile
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Coastal_Shaman
#3 Posted : 7/27/2012 7:06:02 PM

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How long are you holding the vapor in your lungs for? 20-40mg will almost always cause a breakthrough for me if I hold in the vapor for at least 15-20 seconds. It shouldn't matter really what your vaping/smoking technique is as long as you are not burning the spice and holding in the vapor for at least 15-20 seconds.

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Maharanj
#4 Posted : 7/27/2012 7:59:24 PM

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Coastal_Shaman wrote:
How long are you holding the vapor in your lungs for?


I tried as long as i could, it was very harsh. I now realize that i propably burned most of the spice i used for experimenting. Tried it again with the glass bong today, this time with less spice (25mg). Put spice on top of copper-mesh, then scarcely heated it up until it went into fluid form. Then drizzled some ash on top and heated it up with the flame on top of the bowl, slowly inhaling so the hot air was sucked trough the copper-mesh. The smoke/vapor was surprisingly smooth, so i had no problems at all keeping it down for a long time.

Needless to say.. this sent me skyhigh.

Will propably try again later, maybe raising the dose a bit. I guess im quite happy right now that i finally found a more or less reliable/reproducable way, so i dont have to waste any more product.
 
zedwings
#5 Posted : 7/27/2012 11:31:00 PM

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Yeah, I had a lot of teething issues when I started vaping. Two things were happening 1) I was burning the spice by using poor heating technique and 2) I was losing a lot of spice through the screens.

I found that burned spice is VERY hard to hold and also burns my throat quite badly. When done right, the vapour is still not great but much smoother and much easier to hold in.

Might be a suggestion to invest in a GVG.
 
DeMenTed
#6 Posted : 7/27/2012 11:45:11 PM

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Have you recrystallised your dmt or washed it? If your spice isn't clean it won't give you optimum effects for weight ime
 
 
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