Ok, I would post this in the cacti section, but I cannot create a new topic in that forum.(probably due to being a new member and not having enough user privileges yet) I hope it is okay to ask this here.

This isn't a question about extraction, btw. You see, recently I drank about 50g. tea of san pedro(t. pachanoi) and had a nice trip.(not too visual. Really just reminded me of mdma sort of, tho there were some nice trailing effects)

I was wondering, because I was aiming for more visual effects, I was thinking of taking 75-100g of san pedro, but heard bridgesii is more visual/laughing and less nauseating than pachanoi.(which to me felt like a phenethylamine type trip, though different)

Part of the reason I loved shrooms was because of the happy, generally mellow vibe, amazing visuals, and general sense of well being.(although the thought loops got kind of annoying)

I've heard a decent trip for bridgesii is 30g. dried cactus incense, and 50 is a strong dose. But all I see advertised for sale is 25g. dried cacti powder. Would this be a strong enough dose? I'm looking for something in the medium range, dosage wise. Not real moderate, but not too strong to start out. Mostly looking for something more visual, and happy/laughy.(which i didn't get from pachanoi at all.)

I was also thinking of not making tea this time(unless I can boil it down to a shot glass worth because 600ml was a bitch to get down(tastes like puke)) I was thinking of damping the powder with lemon juice/water, letting it clump up and rolling it into balls and swallowing those.(not sure how effective this will be but lemme know)

Once I get this down under my belt, I'm going to try some ayahuasca, but I wanted to explore mescaline a few times before I take the plunge into the realm of DMT, y'know?

Thanks for any and all advice you can give me. Cheers.

Okay, I actually found 28g of peruvian torch(about an oz., which should be plenty for torch) for dirt cheap and decided to go with that.(cheaper, for more grams, of a more potent cacti. Can't beat that, lol)

Sorry for the really long ass previous post, and if I broke any rules by posting in this forum. I'll let you know how the 28g. of T. Peruvianus goes. I might still make the tea, but may boil it WAY, way down to less than 200ml probably. One-two shot of green slime I can handle(even tho the smell alone makes me gag), but 3-4 was a tough one, lol.

Wish me luck and happy/safe trails.

In my view ingesting cacti is pretty safe, and mescaline has a fairly large threshold range. I wouldnt be overly concerned about having 'too much'. Sometimes i like to dive in head first and get the full effect from the chemical - especially if I have a comfortable environment organised to trip with. Caution is obviously always important, but if people were always too cautious they may never experience a thrill like sky diving or base jumping. Mescaline has always been really good fun in my experiences, even at higher doses.

I would boil it down to a sludge or tea consistency and drink it like that. I found soft drink really conteracts the bad taste in your mouth.

Enjoy!

i always suggest live cuttings as they are legal in the us. powder is not.

if that dosent discourage you, then if youre using powder, you could easily make an ethanol extract/tincture/resin to get a full spectrum experience without having to choke down tea or 28 g powder

I'm fairly certain powder is indeed legal in the U.S.(might vary state to state) IF labeled as an herbal incense, which pretty much any psychoactive I've ordered is labeled as.(also labeled "not for human consumption"

This is because some people "supposedly" use the powder to help fertilize other species of cacti. Supposedly, it helps them grow faster.

I live in California and bought 50grams dried san pedro off of Ebay. No issues.

As for the extraction: I actually prefer not to use chemical extractions, not only because I feel iffy about ingesting potentially hazardous chemicals.(even though I've ingested ecstasy, acid and cocaine before) but more so because I don't want to end up screwing it up really.

I've thought of parachuting it, and indeed rolling it into clumps like I did with the left over mulch, wasn't so bad(didn't taste it as much and not as nasty as tea), but swallowing that much would be a hassle. I'll try to add less liquid next time(thinking about 800ml mix of water and lemon juice would be good) and boiling it down to about a shot glass worth would work. I can get the stuff down, it's just the amount that was the pain.(300-500ml. is too much to try and down) Took 45-60 min. just to finish it all, lol.

I'm not TOO apprehensive about taking too much now that I've experienced it. In fact, it's not that I'm afraid, I just wanna be on the safe side. Part of me wants to just take a shit load and see what happens, but I'm being cautious.

Mentally, I'm pretty sure I can handle it. It's the stimulant type kick that makes it intense, but I think I can handle that, too. I just didn't expect that when I tried it. I'd heard things about buzzing energy, but all tails of peyote trips led me to believe it was a mellow, laughy type experience. All in all, was VERY clear headed. Not at all like shrooms.

But I think 28g. of peruvian may be a good amount. I'f not, I'll try 50-60grams just to be sure. Peruvian has a higher mescaline content, anyway, right? I'm thinking 28g. would be a medium sized dose, and a good place to start. Then I can move up to higher doses from there to have the FULL BLOWN experience.

Actually, do you think just mixing the powder in with cranberry juice would be a good idea?(thought cranberry because it's sweet, yet slightly bitter, and may mask the bitter taste of the powder)

Making tea is a fairly long and arduous process and I'd like to simplify things a bit, but not sure how well it would work. I'll do it if I have to, but it just takes so long to boil down to a tolerable amount.