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Cleaning out the closet? Non-active members and such. Options
 
anrchy
#1 Posted : 7/23/2012 9:08:33 PM

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Ok so I just spent way more time clicking through the pages upon pages of members than anyone should ever do, but came upon some interesting facts. Which got me thinking. We should clear out some old non active members from the roster. This idea is based on the following numbers:

893 pages of members.

20 members per page = 17,860 members

332 pages of members with 1 or more posts (6,640 members)

561 pages of members with 0 posts (11,220 members) Majority joined before the year 2012

There are 28 pages of members with only 3 posts (560 members) some are current users

There are 40 pages of members with only 2 posts (800 members) some are current users

There are 64 pages of members with only 1 post (1,280 members) some are current users

I had to click 166 times to get to page 332. Average wait time between pages was 4.5 seconds. (Probably due to the fact the information hasnt been accessed in awhile)

If we got rid of some of the non active members with no posts that would free up some member names that people could use. I would say start off with ones that have ZERO posts and havent been accessed in say a year?

Also think the same should be done with accounts with only 1 post that "didnt" post a DMT or other entheogen use "experience report" and havent been accessed in 2 years.

I have had accounts with some websites that "de-activate" your account after 30 days of non use. I don't think this is necessary but maybe after 2 years of non use? or 1 year?

I do think that 561 pages of non-posters is kind of ridiculous. As it would be more like 1 page if we implemented some sort of time frame of when to delete or deactivate accounts upon non-use of membership.

My main point is this, if you joined in 2008 and you only posted 1 post, unless that post contains extremely important info, your not contributing anything and there should be no problem in deleting this user, as its not difficult to re-apply for membership. When no posts have been made, there is no reason to keep that username registered, as the name can be freed up for someone else and we can unclutter the member pages.

Unless the member has accessed the account this year, if there are no posts the account should be removed IMO.
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#2 Posted : 7/24/2012 3:34:03 AM

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Some people I think join to be able to use the whole site, I.E. there is no search function if your not a member, and I don't think every one feels comfortable posting. I just think It's a bad Idea. My girlfriend for instance has only made one post, but she still likes to get on the chat sometimes and search the archives, If people don't want to make threads and post I don't see a problem with it.
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#3 Posted : 7/24/2012 4:08:05 AM

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Yes I think theres robots that cant access it with or without long term relationships, better keep it as it is.. not to mention cops or other people who dont like bad publicity. Cover all your bases and keep it real. And dont get too high and investigate things like this.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/24/2012 12:10:47 PM

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No login for a year and no posts is deletion candidate in my opinion. I can't see any arguments against that. In ntwhtyouknw's case, his GF would not be effected by this at all.

I could even go with six months of no login/no posts.
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#5 Posted : 7/24/2012 12:29:02 PM

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No login for a year and no posts is deletion candidate in my opinion. I can't see any arguments against that


1. This would mean it's a requierement to be active to be a member.
2. One could be on a longer journey
3. One could be hospitalized
4. One could be busy
5. One could want a longer break from the nexus

Half a year is NOTHING. I imagine myself going on a journey around the world just to find my nexus account deleted?

Or do you mean no posts AT ALL ?
 
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#6 Posted : 7/24/2012 1:01:41 PM

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No login for a year and no posts is deletion candidate in my opinion. I can't see any arguments against that


1. This would mean it's a requierement to be active to be a member.
2. One could be on a longer journey
3. One could be hospitalized
4. One could be busy
5. One could want a longer break from the nexus

Half a year is NOTHING. I imagine myself going on a journey around the world just to find my nexus account deleted?

Or do you mean no posts AT ALL ?


No posts at all. 0. Not just a year absence.
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anrchy
#7 Posted : 7/24/2012 6:58:39 PM

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This was what I was thinking for sure. Its not that hard to post every once in awhile. Maybe if there were someway that you could take into account chat usage. I can understand if someone logs into chat only, to ask quick questions or talk amongst other members, but if they dont use chat or post at all no point in keeping the username from being used by someone who would be active.

Besides you can view the whole website without registering, I dont see why it would be too much to ask of someone, to post every once in awhile in order to be able to keep using search and chat. 11 thousand usernames not being active out of 17 thousand registered names is a lot.

I saw one user that posted 1 post in 2008 and not once since then. That was their only post made, and it was a single line post with no important info.

What if 0 posts and no activity in 1 year: account removed.

I was a member on a private torrent site once, it required that I have some kind of activity every 30 days. If not my account were to be deleted. BUT, If you were going on vacation you could simply go into your account settings and put it into vacation mode while you were gone and those days wouldnt count towards activity requirements.

This however would require some extra coding from traveler, to make it all automatic, which would be nice in the long run, but its just an idea.
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#8 Posted : 7/24/2012 9:15:42 PM

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No login for a year and no posts is deletion candidate in my opinion. I can't see any arguments against that


1. This would mean it's a requierement to be active to be a member.
2. One could be on a longer journey
3. One could be hospitalized
4. One could be busy
5. One could want a longer break from the nexus

Half a year is NOTHING. I imagine myself going on a journey around the world just to find my nexus account deleted?

Or do you mean no posts AT ALL ?

And with as weird as we all are, we're darn sure apt to disappear for a while. Hell, I could see somebody who is impassioned about the substance, the site and the community not logging in for a year. After all, a lot of folks 'round here are pretty hard-headed and terrestrial (not in a bad way), which can be counterproductive for the more spiritual/alchemical among us. I suppose this is just as applicable the other way around.

We're all on our own journey, and a nexus is a place where many journeys converge upon a point, and then continue on their ways. We all find our way back when we need to and when it counts... there's no need to make it a requirement in my opinion.

(And on a personal note, the idea seems to be rather silly in the spirit of the substance, y'know? Wink )
 
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#9 Posted : 7/24/2012 11:23:03 PM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
obliguhl wrote:
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No login for a year and no posts is deletion candidate in my opinion. I can't see any arguments against that


1. This would mean it's a requierement to be active to be a member.
2. One could be on a longer journey
3. One could be hospitalized
4. One could be busy
5. One could want a longer break from the nexus

Half a year is NOTHING. I imagine myself going on a journey around the world just to find my nexus account deleted?

Or do you mean no posts AT ALL ?

And with as weird as we all are, we're darn sure apt to disappear for a while. Hell, I could see somebody who is impassioned about the substance, the site and the community not logging in for a year. After all, a lot of folks 'round here are pretty hard-headed and terrestrial (not in a bad way), which can be counterproductive for the more spiritual/alchemical among us. I suppose this is just as applicable the other way around.

We're all on our own journey, and a nexus is a place where many journeys converge upon a point, and then continue on their ways. We all find our way back when we need to and when it counts... there's no need to make it a requirement in my opinion.

(And on a personal note, the idea seems to be rather silly in the spirit of the substance, y'know? Wink )


Thats why I am proposing to eliminate the stale usernames NOT being used. 11,000 is a pretty big number of members that I am guessing most dont even visit the site anymore. I am sure Trav has the ability to see how many of them are inactive, and what I mean by that is "have not logged in for a long period of time and have not posted a single post"

It would be nice to still see how many people register, counting even the ones that become inactive and are removed.
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#10 Posted : 7/25/2012 12:04:26 AM

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But what is going REAL benefit of removing the inactive users? Freeing up 10 MB in the Traveler's server?

In what ways does your suggestion, anchry, aim to really help the Nexus? I really do not see any beef with 10 or 10,000,000 registered, zero poster, inactive users. But it appears that this bothers you in some way, so what's all about this crusade you're running here? I hope you're not the OCD-with-cleanliness type of guy!Very happy


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anrchy
#11 Posted : 7/25/2012 12:25:25 AM

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I don't see it as a major issue really, I don't think "crusade" would be fitting. Just a suggestion is all, and figured I would post the idea to see what others think about it.

There probably wouldn't be any real benefits, especially for active members. The only thing that would happen is it would free up usernames for people who would want to join. It took my gf a few different tries to finally get a username that wasn't already taken. It "might" also motivate people to make posts that otherwise wouldn't due to whatever reasons. By posting they are contributing their personality, ideas, and experiences for everyone else to enjoy, and in return receive full access to the sites search and chat functions.

This would possibly work in the same manner that the "new member" function works. Prove you portray the attitude of the rest of the community and you get full access privilege to posting in member sections of the forum. This is already a function of the site, and I think by motivating people to post by implementing certain added requirements to hold onto your username it would help with this even more.
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#12 Posted : 7/25/2012 12:30:07 AM

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I like the notion of idea of deleting the inactive users to free up usernames. I admit quite some (just as your gf) must have struggled to find a username or might have resorted to a compromise.




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#13 Posted : 7/25/2012 2:53:45 AM

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#14 Posted : 7/25/2012 3:28:42 AM

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The biggest example on the issue I'm presenting is that there are more usernames registered that haven't posted a single post than there are that have posted atleast 1 post. Almost twice as many usernames. 11,000 with no posts at all. Compared to the 6,000 that have posted anywhere from 1 to over a thousand posts.

I think it would be very likely that more would participate in conversation if it was required of them in order to keep it active. Although if this did happen, it would increase growth which could be neg and pos growth. Is this something that is welcomed? Is too much growth such a thing for the nexus? Do you think it would encourage growth?
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#15 Posted : 7/25/2012 3:59:58 AM


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Why does it irk you so much, anrchy? Does your name translate to anarchy, by any chance? Kant describes Anarchy as "Law And Freedom without Violence." Offing nearly half the population of Nexians sounds like a pretty violent move, in the digital sense.
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#16 Posted : 7/25/2012 5:26:45 AM

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What exactly makes you think I'm "irked"? I'm just trying to converse about the idea and bring up pros and cons. Some members have brought up good reason why it shouldn't be changed and some Hve brought up good reason why it should. It's not an imperative issue and I'm not concerned about it. Isn't this the suggestions sub forum?

I'm starting to notice slight irritation towards me from some people and if it's the way I come off please clarify my wrongs so that I know how I sound in my posts from a different POV. This site is like no other and has contributed GREATLY to my ability to communicate in a passive and empathetic way. I appreciate this as it is something I'm continuing to improve upon in my writings and my verbal communication as well.

My thought is, how are they members? Does membership mean just that you spectate? Then any guest is a member. And removing unused usernames wouldn't take away from there ability to view the website in any manner. I understand there is the Fine line that some people register in order to use the search and chat functions but it's my belief that this would amount to a very small number out of the 11 thousand non posters.
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a1pha wrote:
Why does it irk you so much, anrchy? Does your name translate to anarchy, by any chance? Kant describes Anarchy as "Law And Freedom without Violence." Offing nearly half the population of Nexians sounds like a pretty violent move, in the digital sense.


funny point Big grin

but i don't think the suspicious/rude tone is really necessary man (unless your post was just a joke!; my bad)..his motives seem pretty obvious and genuine, imo. Although my Narcdar does need some tuning from time to time Very happy

"offing nearly half the population of Nexians sounds like a pretty violent move, in the digital sense."

Heheh, but.. thats such a misleading way to put it..considering those inactive members aren't even here, and won't be here anyways..So its hardly "offing half the population of the nexus" if we take "population" as referring to the people who are actually ON the nexus.

i can see the logic behind deleting the thousands of members who've been here for well over a year and have 0 posts, so that those names will be free for others to use. What harm will that do? (and perhaps it may spark more to participate a bit. if not, oh well..no difference) ..really though, it doesn't matter much to me either way.. but i can't think of any good arguments against the idea




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#18 Posted : 7/25/2012 6:03:56 AM

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I say keep it the way it is.You have no idea why people quit posting or logging in.They might not be able to at the present time for various reasons.I don't post that often myself and I would be mad if I came back sometime and my name and everything was gone.
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I say keep it the way it is.You have no idea why people quit posting or logging in.They might not be able to at the present time for various reasons.I don't post that often myself and I would be mad if I came back sometime and my name and everything was gone.


Yeah thats a good point. But i don't see how that'll be much of an issue if only those who have been inactive for over a year and had 0 posts to begin with are the ones deleted

it'd be funny though if one of them happens upon this thread and objects Smile



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It was more or less a joke -- plz, don't take offense by me.

Bottom line: it would create more work for The Traveler. And, as a web admin myself, I see only problem after problem for him. Out of the thousands deleted at least a few are going to want their membership back. There's only one person to who has this ability: The Traveler. Therefore, in the interest of saving the poor guy a few hours of his life....
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