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If I react badley to Acid, should I avoid DMT? Options
 
meesheemee
#1 Posted : 7/24/2012 4:09:57 AM
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Hello.

For years I have been interested in DMT. I have some, but am extremity wary about using it, especially because recently I have been reacting badly to acid.

The aspect of Acid that hurts me (specifically) is that I am already extremely over-analytical and symbolic. When I trip on it, my brain literally short-circuits. If I use acid again I feel like I might cause irrevocable damage, and be one of those people who never come back from a trip. On the other hand, I still find mescaline and mushrooms pleasant and fun.

Can somebody please help me figure out if I will be mentally able to handle DMT? Are the philosophical effects of DMT hard and fast? If they are I think I should avoid it. Does DMT cause to you introspect on your own life, or extrospect on the world?

I am stopping using drugs because I am entering adulthood, want to be more responsible, and because my brain is not as flexible as it once was. However, I want to know if I should let myself experience DMT before I adopt sobriety completely.

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#2 Posted : 7/24/2012 4:28:03 AM
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If you try DMT I would try a small dose of cappi based oral DMT and test the water.

Smoked DMT might not be up your alley because yeah, it does all those things you mentioned.
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#3 Posted : 7/24/2012 4:34:19 AM

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i too was scared off of acid because yes my brain short circuited *felt like my cerebral cortex was melting*

i had some dmt later and held it with awe and utmost reverence, having done aya and assuming it was the same experience but smoked i was super hesitant to try.

well i finally did, and lighting it was the hardest part. but when i did, i had absolute euphoria and a release of all my egoic tensions, it wasnt a break through dose but it was pretty visual.

id say try a little bit of dmt like 30 mg, then wait an hour, and try 60. after you try 30 youll see there is nothing to fear, and then with the clear mind and tolerence gone and hour later, youll enter hyperspace with 60 and see how beautiful it can be...


for people who are timid, pack 2 pipes if you can, one with 30, one with 60+. lay down in a bed and set them next to you, smoke the 30 and go into it as far as you can, remain in a stupor until youre sure a long while had gone by, youll be in such a good mindset that blazing that 60+ wont seem like anything to be hesitant about at all. this works really well.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/24/2012 7:55:35 AM

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DMT has many similar aspects to high doses of mushrooms. If you have little problems with high-dose mushrooms, then you should be able to easily work with DMT.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/24/2012 9:08:28 AM

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@mew
60mg is a huge dose dude....
30mg/40mg should be adequate for breakthrough if you are vaping....

I wouldn't recommend anything more than 30 for a nervous newcomer...unless you are losing a fair amount in the smoking process..
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#6 Posted : 7/24/2012 9:26:39 AM
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LSD and DMT are two completely different trips. I wouldnt hold back at all on trying the DMT. Its obviously much shorter lasting when smoked - and you become far too taken away by the visuals and realisations of the effect for it to give you any mental dwelling. No psychedelics can harm you long term if you approach them with the right attitude and work through them with a positive light in mind. Many psychedelics were used for healing and therapy before being criminalised. If you think of them in that respect, and keep your optimism, then there should be no problems you cant deal with constructively.

 
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#7 Posted : 7/24/2012 9:44:30 AM

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yeah i wouldn't think so. DMT is extremely forgiving if you have positive intent with it and use it with respect and self transparency. acid can be a bit of a harsh teacher sometimes.. it certainly was after a while for me. I used acid for a long time with no dramas and after a while it brought out dimensions of thinking which were far too analytical and put me in quite a bad place socially. doing too much acid damaged me a bit and i still feel the effects today in my thought process.. like it completely obliterated my ego and then built it back even stronger afterwards. DMT is different and has the capacity to be a very powerful medicine but as I said requires much respect. treat it as a sacrament and listen to what it communicates to you

good luck matie Smile
 
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#8 Posted : 7/24/2012 10:43:36 AM

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I have a friend who has had a few difficult experiences on acid (who I had to babysit while tripping equally hard Wut? )... He has smoked DMT a couple of times with no apparent issues, saying he had an awesome time. Each substance works differently, I wouldn't assume that because I had a hard time on acid it would be the same with DMT, particularly regardding your experience with shrooms... Start low, build up to a comfortable dosage and experiment away Cool
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#9 Posted : 7/24/2012 2:09:16 PM

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#10 Posted : 7/24/2012 3:41:11 PM
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Thanks guys, this is exactly what I was looking for.
Peace.
 
 
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