We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Directing Consciousness and Immediately Perceived Effects Options
 
Global
#1 Posted : 7/21/2012 12:10:45 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Moderator | Skills: Music, LSDMT, Egyptian Visions, DMT: Energetic/Holographic Phenomena, Integration, Trip Reports

Posts: 5267
Joined: 01-Jul-2010
Last visit: 13-Dec-2018
Ok, so like so many others, DMT has put me in touch with energetic phenomena that I would have ordinarily never tapped. I can interact and feel the interactions of this energy, even when not in hyperspace, though it certainly helps.

Sometime over the course of the past year, I began to realize that even when dead sober while sitting at the computer, I would begin to feel the energy, and if my eyes fell down to the left for example, I would feel all the energy go that way, and consequently the energy would physically drag my whole head down in that direction as well. I began to theorize that the direction that my eyes were pointed at was what was controlling the flow of energy.

Now, when I've been entering hyperspace lately, as I'm holding in my hits, OEV holograms will generally come out of the wall and begin to make their way over to me. If they align well with me, then the experience tends to be more powerful and positive as if the energy is "in-phase" with me. I bring this up because 2 sessions ago, I had the GVG in my hand as the holograms were aligning with me, and having to put it down, I set it down on the bed, looking where I put it, and the holograms all fell away from me and towards the GVG on the bed. I found this intriguing because here was the visual manifestation of the energy responding to my eye movements (or so I thought), but it gets better.

So this last session I had, I'm holding in my hit, the hologram is making its way over, and I very consciously realize that I can't avert my eyes or the holograms will fall. So I kept my eyes locked 100% dead ahead whilst I set down the GVG, and to my amazement, the holograms still fell to the GVG, which at this point was out of sight. It was then that I realized that it wasn't which way my eyes were pointing, but which way my consciousness/attention was directed, even if it was to a place that wasn't in sight.

When the trip was over, I was doing all kinds of little experiments with directing my attention to different parts of my body as I could very solidly feel the energy moving there. There was music playing in the room, and I was unsure of where my brother was in the room with my eyes closed, so I focused my consciousness on him (wherever he was), and my the energy took control of my head as it pivoted on a pretty odd angle. When I opened my eyes, they were set dead on my brother. This lead me to come up with an experiment (which I've yet to try) in terms of having my brother hide a pre-selected ball from me, and to see if I can essentially and effectively "dowse" for it using the energy and direction of consciousness.

Additionally, it lead me to see two energetic phenomena in a different "light" (if you'll pardon the pun). You see, both external physical light produced from some external source like a lamp or the sun, as well as the energetic DMT holograms seem to be able to involuntarily move whatever part of my body they make contact with to the locus of their highest concentration. In light of this revelation of the energy being moved to wherever my consciousness is directed, it seems reasonable to assert that whether it's the light from an external source, or the DMT holograms, either one will involuntarily command my attention to it, thus facilitating the "autonomous" body movements. On the other hand, I see an alternative way of interpreting this. Perhaps it's not simply that my consciousness is directing the energy, but what I'm observing is the energy as consciousness. So perhaps whether it's my consciousness itself, or the pure consciousness of light or of hyperspace itself, they all behave similarly due to their inextricable relationships with consciousness in general. I don't generally like to wax on and on about consciousness, these are just my opinions based on my observations, and I state no current opinion for the effect of consciousness on others at a distance, but I felt compelled to share.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 

Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
PhoenixReborn
#2 Posted : 7/21/2012 10:26:25 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 19
Joined: 28-Jun-2012
Last visit: 10-Jul-2024
Location: Nether Regions
I'm curious to find out how your experiment goes with finding a hidden object. Please keep us informed of that Thumbs up
Buddha -- "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
 
samurai87
#3 Posted : 7/22/2012 7:04:45 AM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 31
Joined: 08-Jul-2012
Last visit: 29-Aug-2012
Location: Australia
This is what I like to read. You're onto something buddy!

I've experienced and observed the very thing you are trying to describe...

Ultimately your consciousness and the 'universal consciousness' are one in the same. So your focus towards something does effect the way you recieve it, and the way it behaves. I suggest quickly having a look on youtube.com at a little cartoon by 'Dr. Quantum' called the 'double slit experiment'.

As soon as you direct your focus onto something you start to attach emotion and feeling with your direction of concentration. So if you approach an experience with intent in your focus it will ultimately hinder the full recieval of information of the experience. And the focus of your eyes themselves very much effect the 'way' your brain functions. Notice how peoples eyes flutter or twitch, or look to the sides when they're trying to think in a certain way?.... So if you direct your eyes dead straight, with 100% focus, your brain has nowhere left to absorb information from besides what is right infront of you. The focus of your eyes ultimately carves the path for your mental waters to flow towards.

If you look dead in front of you, without allowing your mind to wander, and let go of any immediate physcial attachment, you will start to enter 'hyper space' and your consciousness will start to leave your physical self - and you will be let loose into metaphysicality.

I have left my body by allowing this to happen and ended up physically hurting myself to a degree - which has now given me another physical attachment to bypass which has made me doing it again a little difficult.

I hope im not babbling here because i feel this topic is of upmost importance as to unleashing new potentials of brain function. What we are trying to describe, i feel, is the next level humans need to reach to transcend their physical selves.

^ And this all begins on where you situate your stare and how you direct your focus and concentration. Because wherevever you mentally direct your focus - is where your brain sends its energy or life force towards. And there is no limit in this universe as to where and how we can direct and apply our concentration

I am more than happy to break this down more with you. Please feel free to dissect what I have said and share more of what you have gathered to date. Many current experiments already prove the power of pure mental application - but to incorporate these notions with our every day selves, i believe, is our next step as humans.

 
samurai87
#4 Posted : 7/22/2012 7:21:40 AM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 31
Joined: 08-Jul-2012
Last visit: 29-Aug-2012
Location: Australia


Another thing to think on... notice the colour and light you see with your eyes closed - sober or not?

Close your eyes and notice this colour and movement. Now open your eyes and cover your eyes with your hands. You will see the same vibrational colour with your eyes closed or opened.

It is like an energetic feild of your concentration. And it is this energetic field that we tap into during metaphysical states. This vibrational colour which seems to be projected from your eye area covers everything we are in contact with in any way, all the time.

The trick is to let it keep flowing. When you 'think' or mentally distract yourself in any way you defer your mind away from this self-projected vibrational field. When you let go of your thoughts the currents of this field heighten and start to absorb you. Self directed mental application acts as an anchor to prevent us being swept into this current, the hard thing is to 'let go' and let this pre-existing vibrational current take us away so we can enter its potential.

" The cave we fear to enter - holds the treasure we seek "

 
PhoenixReborn
#5 Posted : 7/22/2012 11:08:22 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 19
Joined: 28-Jun-2012
Last visit: 10-Jul-2024
Location: Nether Regions
I have given your original post some further thoughts and this is what I have come up with. If you really want to take this a little further and do a sort of 'double-blind' test with it... this is what I suggest. If you do the test that you were saying about your brother hiding a ball, that will still not determine whether it is the hologram entities that have directed you towards the ball or whether it is really you that somehow got into deeper touch with your brother and read his mind. If you want to really test if it is you or the entities that are doing this, here is a suggestion that you can do after the ball hiding test. Take 5 cards from a deck of cards. For example, the Ace of Spades thru to the Five of Spades. Then you should shuffle them face-down yourself and very thoroughly and then give them to your brother to shuffle face-down very thoroughly. That way there is no way for either of you to know where the card postions may be by feeling them during the shuffle. Then have your brother lay them out FACE-DOWN and wide apart from eachother, either on the floor or table or spread around the room. Think of the Ace of Spades in your head and then see if these entities find the correct position. This will give you a little more understanding of what may be going on after the results of that test. I would like to know the results if you try that. Goodluck!
Buddha -- "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
 
samurai87
#6 Posted : 7/23/2012 1:04:26 AM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 31
Joined: 08-Jul-2012
Last visit: 29-Aug-2012
Location: Australia


^ You talk about 'reading someones mind' and 'hologram entities' in two different breaths.

How would someone 'read someones mind' ? - And what would that mean if it was possible?

And describe what you are defining when you use the term 'hologram entities' ?



 
PhoenixReborn
#7 Posted : 7/23/2012 3:54:47 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 19
Joined: 28-Jun-2012
Last visit: 10-Jul-2024
Location: Nether Regions
I was talking about his original message up at the top where he said that he wasn't sure if the hologram entities were going to where his attention was directed and he wasn't sure where his brother was when they did. He wants to do a test to see if he can have his brother hide a ball and if he thinks about the ball, will the hologram entities go to where the ball is hidden. But if his brother knows where the ball is, then it is very possible that HE is the one reading his brother's mind, since we are all ONE and connected on the subatomic level. So if he truely wants to find out whether it is indeed the hologram entities that are doing it or whether it is his own mind that is doing it, then I suggested that 'double-blind' test. I am sure that HE knew what I was talking about but there is my explanation since u asked.
Buddha -- "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
 
Xaarov
#8 Posted : 7/23/2012 6:54:02 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 54
Joined: 03-Apr-2012
Last visit: 24-Sep-2012
Location: three miles west of tomorrow
Global wrote:
When the trip was over, I was doing all kinds of little experiments with directing my attention to different parts of my body as I could very solidly feel the energy moving there. There was music playing in the room, and I was unsure of where my brother was in the room with my eyes closed, so I focused my consciousness on him (wherever he was), and my the energy took control of my head as it pivoted on a pretty odd angle. When I opened my eyes, they were set dead on my brother. This lead me to come up with an experiment (which I've yet to try) in terms of having my brother hide a pre-selected ball from me, and to see if I can essentially and effectively "dowse" for it using the energy and direction of consciousness.



Awesome post. Looking forward to your test results!
"This concludes our transmission to Oceania. However, listeners in East Asia may continue listening on the following short wave frequencies: 6110, 7230, 9565, 9760, 15160, and 15425 kilohertz."
 
samurai87
#9 Posted : 7/23/2012 10:59:11 AM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 31
Joined: 08-Jul-2012
Last visit: 29-Aug-2012
Location: Australia
PhoenixReborn wrote:
I was talking about his original message up at the top where he said that he wasn't sure if the hologram entities were going to where his attention was directed and he wasn't sure where his brother was when they did..........
So if he truely wants to find out whether it is indeed the hologram entities that are doing it or whether it is his own mind that is doing it, then I suggested that 'double-blind' test. I am sure that HE knew what I was talking about but there is my explanation since u asked.



I figured what you were trying to refer to. I didnt see 'hologram entities' mentioned in the original post ?

I suppose what im leading to is that the 'holograms' are self manifested rather than being created by an external force of some sort. And the 'holograms' i believe, are our insight into a universal ocean of vibration. Which, if tapped into, will open the doors to potential 'mind reading' and other metaphysical phenomena.

I agree that the more rigorous and rounded the testing of this is then the better it is to determine definite results and conclusions. And i dont doubt the solidarity of your proposed test at all. I'm more so just checking that we are on the same page as to of how all the pieces fit into this puzzle.


 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.036 seconds.