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The Botanical term for an Internal Alkaloid Secreting cell is called a Idioblast Options
 
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#1 Posted : 7/18/2012 2:32:19 AM

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I found that in Botany they use the term Trichome only for secretory cells that are external to the plant.

But when these same types of secretory structures are within the plant, like within the bark of a woody plant, they are known as a Idioblast.

Physiology of woody plants: Page 27-28 http://www.scribd.com/do...ysiology-of-woody-plants

http://www.cls.zju.edu.c.../plant/secret/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioblast


Just thought I would throw this out here since none of you even understood where the plant essence comes from.


Ohh and here is a citation for a precedence of finding alkaloids within trichomes secretory cells.

http://www.springerlink....ontent/k6m3p6736k02763q/


I also found that salvinorin A is secreted into glandular trichomes which are found on the epidermal of the plant. While that is not alkaloid its more evidence that the essence of the plant and the compounds we are after are created by the plants into these specific types of cells.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/18/2012 8:49:47 AM

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Thank you for sharing, but please, drop the "none of you even understood" attitude, it doesn't fit in this community.

An idioblast inside the plant wouldnt work with your method, would it? So name or not, the points made still remain.

Also seems you missed an important fact, that alkaloids are in salt form naturally in plants, therefore water soluble, meaning they would have probably dissolved in your water and not come across.

Did you test your isolated glands in the end? I suggest you get marquis reagent or similar, my sigature colorimetric link has links to resellers of these testing reagents. I suggest you test with these reagents or extract before being so sure your idea works. Again, im glad for the sharing of information, but I would hope you would take in accout the criticism to improve your ideas, and avoid a confrontational "I-know-it-better" attitude.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/18/2012 9:40:13 AM

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endlessness wrote:
Also seems you missed an important fact, that alkaloids are in salt form naturally in plants, therefore water soluble, meaning they would have dissolved in your water and not come across.

would the amount dissolved be significant?
typically when one makes bubble hash, ice and cold water are used, so the solubility would greatly be decreased.

and i would assume its not extremely soluble in water in the first place, hence brewing.

admittedly this is all conjecture(none of you will even understand it Razz).
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#4 Posted : 7/18/2012 10:19:10 AM

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Its true its cold water but at the same time theres a lot of movement, which increases the chances of it dissolving, so its hard to talk theoretically. Just real testing would tell.
 
 
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