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Ive detected Capitate-Sessile Trichome Glands on the underside of Reed Canary Grass leaves Options
 
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#41 Posted : 7/16/2012 5:30:01 PM

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thus, we have completed a circle

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have you tested this by any qualitative means?
afaik, tryptamines are produced in intracellular membranes, not secreted.


if phalaris had alkaloid-producing glands in the form of trichomes, we'd probably see a plethora of papers and teks describing soxhlet methods of extractions.
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#42 Posted : 7/16/2012 5:32:58 PM

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DMT does right ?

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#43 Posted : 7/16/2012 5:33:16 PM

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Xare wrote:

They are all the same thing.

A Trichome is a cell with a membrane that contains alkaloids that the plant made.

The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem.

Yup - you're genuinely confused; and you also shift the goalposts and fiddle with definitions to fit your bizarre notions.

By bizarre, I do not necessarily mean wrong or untrue. Just bizarre enough to make your experiments a realistically very long shot and one that is likely to fail. Not to mention that you're not experienced with dmt extraction from sure sources before you go to the obscure world of grasses...When your notions and experiments starts getting backed by results, then it's revolutionary success and we're all ears.

But for the moment please be frugal about any claim of yours e.g. that "The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem" or at least provide some evidence. Consider this as a warning.


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#44 Posted : 7/16/2012 5:41:23 PM

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Infundibulum wrote:
Xare wrote:

They are all the same thing.

A Trichome is a cell with a membrane that contains alkaloids that the plant made.

The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem.

Yup - you're genuinely confused; and you also shift the goalposts and fiddle with definitions to fit your bizarre notions.

By bizarre, I do not necessarily mean wrong or untrue. Just bizarre enough to make your experiments a realistically very long shot and one that is likely to fail. Not to mention that you're not experienced with dmt extraction from sure sources before you go to the obscure world of grasses...When your notions and experiments starts getting backed by results, then it's revolutionary success and we're all ears.

But for the moment please be frugal about any claim of yours e.g. that "The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem" or at least provide some evidence. Consider this as a warning.




Well as its said the devil is always in the details.

The the trichome is connected to the plant and like any living thing its given nutrients through its connection to the rest plant.

And inside the cell the essence of the plant is made, weather its THC or DMT or whatever type of essence its going to be depends on the type of plant your dealing with.

But the cell has to be fed so that it can grow just like any living thing and as it grows it gets larger and fills up with more of the Alkaloids or whatever it is that the cell is making.

When I say a plant secretes these glands that contain the essence of the plant I guess you could say its like a person breaking a sweat on their forehead. These little beads just appear. *Only a metaphor* !



 
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Um...I don't want to discourage anyone but, are you sure that is phalaris grass? Because the large, broad leaf (relativly speaking) makes me think that it is very young Arundo Donax a.k.a. the Colorado River Reed.
Cool that you are trying something new though! I've never thought to try and make bubble hash from other plants besides cannabis...not sure grass is the best candidate. I wonder; Salvia Divinorum hash! LOL! Now THAT would be some potent stuff!Twisted Evil

As for phalaris; you've got to lice the cells or you'll get little of anything in the way of alkaloids...and I do belive that these are going to be in a salt form. Hence: water soluable...Sad

So I don't think this will work.

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#46 Posted : 7/16/2012 5:46:13 PM

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Infundibulum wrote:
Xare wrote:

They are all the same thing.

A Trichome is a cell with a membrane that contains alkaloids that the plant made.

The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem.

Yup - you're genuinely confused; and you also shift the goalposts and fiddle with definitions to fit your bizarre notions.

By bizarre, I do not necessarily mean wrong or untrue. Just bizarre enough to make your experiments a realistically very long shot and one that is likely to fail. Not to mention that you're not experienced with dmt extraction from sure sources before you go to the obscure world of grasses...When your notions and experiments starts getting backed by results, then it's revolutionary success and we're all ears.

But for the moment please be frugal about any claim of yours e.g. that "The plants secrete the alkaloids into the cell wall of the trichome gland through its stem" or at least provide some evidence. Consider this as a warning.


And with this we close this thread before it goes out of hand. Please post back when the final results are in Xare.


Kind regards,

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