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Saturating 99% iPA's 1% of Water with Salt - Anyone tried ??? Options
 
Herbgarden
#1 Posted : 7/16/2012 1:29:57 AM

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Has ANYONE yet tried to saturate 99% iPA with simple table salt NaCl for the purpose of washes(ie. to get sodium carbonate/hydroxide out) or even distillation ?

Is there any better molecule in existence for this purpose ?

Does it work ?

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#2 Posted : 7/16/2012 1:43:41 AM

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From what i understand, the salt does not dissolve in the ipa. It does dissolve in the 1% water, but theoretically it should "pull" the water out as the salt hydrates.

Nacl works alright for this, but baked epsom salts (mgso4) work much better, and iirc can pull several times their weight of water out of the alcohol, something like 7 molecules of h2o for every molecule of mgs04 when its fully hydrated. Then you just decant off the iso, save the epsom salts, bake them again to dehydrate and your good to go as far as re-using them.

I used to use salt after first hearing about that trick, but soon switched over to dry mgso4 when i figured out how much more effective it is at drying alcohols.

Sodium sulfate, iirc is an even better dehydrating agent, but is a bit harder to get ahold of irl, if you don't mind ordering it off the internet its easy to find and cheap though.
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#3 Posted : 7/16/2012 7:40:56 AM

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MgSO4 wont do much for drying 99% iPA further, ipa forms an azeotrope with water which makes it more difficult, plus some MgSO4 will dissolve in alcohol as well, so it requires use of a process known as azeotropic distillation...

Acetone can be dried with anhydrous CaSO4, K2CO3 or type 4A Linde molecular sieves, and then distd. Silica gel and alumina, or mildly acidic or basic dessicants cause acetone to undergo the aldol condensation, so that its water content is increased by passage through these reagents. This also occurs to some extent when P2O5 or sodium Amalgam is used.

---> Anhydrous MgSO4 is an inefficient drying agent, and CaCl2 forms an addition compound. Drierite (anhydrous CaSO4) offers he minimum acid and base catalysis of aldol formation and is the recommended drying agent for this solvent.

"Purification of laboratory chemicals" 5th edition page 29 says;

"However, care must be exercised in using molecular sieves for drying organic liquids. Appreciable amounts of impurites were formed when samples of acetone, 1,1,1-trichloroethane and methyl-t-butyl were dried in the liquid phase by contact with molecular sieves 4A (Connett lab pract 21 545 1972)"

The book also sugests that MgSO4 is acidic enough to cause some adol condensation
 
 
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