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Do entheogens heal negative karmas of some kind? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 7/15/2012 7:05:09 AM
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I have heard that entheogens do heal the body of negative karma.I think it probably has at least some truth to it. The reason why is that psychonauts, and shamans seem to be liberated form certain negative energies and karmas over time by systemically using entheogens and seeking truth.

What is your thoughts on this guys?

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#2 Posted : 7/15/2012 7:36:20 AM

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They can certainly help in a lot of ways if used respectfully but should not be relied on for such an outcome. I believe being honest about your intentions in life and acting with love and forgiveness can heal negative karma anyways. if you can do that in your day to day life the entheogen on top will make a great cocktail though when you do decide to use it Pleased
 
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#3 Posted : 7/15/2012 10:51:03 AM
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I do not think that entheogens can heal negative karma. They can help you diagnose what´s wrong and they can 'show you the way' to either overcome, or to live with your shortcomings.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/15/2012 11:03:27 AM
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polytrip wrote:
I do not think that entheogens can heal negative karma. They can help you diagnose what´s wrong and they can 'show you the way' to either overcome, or to live with your shortcomings.

So you can overcome karma though, right? That would be my point. That entheogens show you your negativity, blockages, and karma and then you can work through it over time.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/15/2012 11:20:24 AM

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Karma is something you can believe in, or not, so in this sense nobody can really know/tell if entheogens heal it for sure because it would be a belief (and equally someone could believe that entheogens are or create bad karma themselves).

In any case personally I feel that entheogens can help oneself gaining a different perspective on things, looking at past actions in a different light. This can potentially make someone regret/repent negative past actions, and try to overcome and improve after the trip is gone. In this way one could look at it as "healing negative karmas". But on the other hand I dont think that is necessarily going to happen if you take entheogens, since some people dont seem to change at all or even worsen their delusions and keeping harming others.

Also I guess even the notion of "bad/negative" is somewhat subjective, no? I mean, to me, violence in general is pretty negative or bad, and if I was to be violent against someone, it would certainly come back during a trip. But what about some shamans or indigenous groups like the Shuar/Jivaro who traditionally would kill their enemies, behead them and hang their heads in poles, and take ayahuasca to celebrate it. Doesnt seem like a bad thing to them, right?
 
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#6 Posted : 7/15/2012 12:29:19 PM

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I agree with Endlessness.

Psychadelics have many beneficial uses. And the most common is to give the partaker insights over their lives. It is then up to that person if he wants to act on what he has learnt in a positive manner, or continue as before.

What is done, is done. But at least he can upon see'ing the errors of his ways make future ammends which may or may not help others in a fantastic manner.

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#7 Posted : 7/16/2012 6:37:25 AM

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endlessness wrote:
But what about some shamans or indigenous groups like the Shuar/Jivaro who traditionally would kill their enemies, behead them and hang their heads in poles, and take ayahuasca to celebrate it. Doesnt seem like a bad thing to them, right?


My thoughts as well, It's all in your head. Your beating yourself up essentially with set beliefs which through entheogen use can highlight these negative thought processes to help you shed them from your psyche, ultimately allowing one to view themselves entirely from multiple foreign perspectives. Here's an example, say our culture has embedded the idea that smoking reefer is wrong and you will rot in eternal hell for doing so, once the user smokes ganja they all of sudden feel guilt, regret, etc. These negative feelings ofcourse stemming from their beliefs which was influenced from narrow mindedness, lack of information or what have. Once we realize we are merely byproducts of our environment anything can go as long as you respect your fellow man ofcourse.

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bricklaya]. I believe being honest about your intentions in life and acting with love and forgiveness can heal negative karma anyways. if you can do that in your day to day life the entheogen on top will make a great cocktail though when you do decide to use


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#8 Posted : 7/16/2012 11:46:41 PM
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endlessness wrote:
But what about some shamans or indigenous groups like the Shuar/Jivaro who traditionally would kill their enemies, behead them and hang their heads in poles, and take ayahuasca to celebrate it. Doesnt seem like a bad thing to them, right?
I have always thought that entheogens need to be used in combination. So in this case the shaman's might need shrooms to off set the ego, or perhaps some other entheogens like MDMA for empathy. No one entheogen will do it all, all the time.

The other thing is. Was the shamans anger justified in anyway for doing what he did? Was he attached unjustly before hand?

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