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Gurdjieff, The Fourth Way, and DMT Options
 
SoManyRoads
#1 Posted : 7/15/2012 4:25:13 AM

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I'm just curious if anyone else here is interested in, or practicing Work through the Fourth Way, and Gurgjieff's teachings? If so, do you find any benefit to using DMT as far as helping in Work, or is doing DMT something separate in your spiritual seakings?
 

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#2 Posted : 7/15/2012 5:35:56 AM

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Gurjeff for me gave permission to not follow. After reading Beelzibubs tales I came to the conclusion that everything is an analogy, some things being just pages in a personal collection of ideas.
I personally feel that DMT takes you beyond, to where your own spirituality becomes the frame work.
The Cosmic Serpent by Jeremy Narby outlines a few interesting biological possibilities that work for me. But I carry Gurjeff with me at all times, as I do Osho and Madame Blavatsky and Rasputin and Mother Theresa..and many many others..Wink
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#3 Posted : 7/15/2012 12:03:33 PM

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Gurdjieff is amazing, reading Beelzebub has changed my life, reinforced my critical outlook towards things, made me more curious about the "hidden misteries" of life and humanity's history.

It also made it even clearer to me how we're still not fully awake and there's a long way towards that, a lot of self-observation and use of different 'alarm clocks' are needed. In this sense, I think psychedelics are very compatible with the work proposed by gurdjieff, because at least for me they can serve to see different parts of myself, from another angle, and thus get a little bit closer from the elusive "total picture".

I wonder what gurdjieff would have thought of psychedelics....

Anyways, as Gowpen too, im not a strict follower of the fourth way or anybody's way except my own way, though I incorporate what I feel is beneficial for me from different life experiences and teachings I come across.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/17/2012 1:39:20 AM

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Thanks for posting guys. I've only very recently started studying Gurdjieff, so I haven't read Beelzebub yet. I have read a little bit of In Search of the Miracolous, and a few books on Self Observation, and Self Remembering, and am now reading Gurdjieff Unveiled by Sy Ginsburg.
 
 
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