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TRyptamine
#1 Posted : 7/14/2012 9:48:33 PM
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i try to make 1.5 kg powder san pedro extraction with ron69 tech with xylene but something gone wrong.

i used

1500 gr powdered san pedro
375 gr cal hydroxide
4.5 lt distilled water
2.5 lt xylene

i try to filter the xylene. but i can collect only 0.5 lt.

what can i do in this situtation ? it is very hard to filter the solvent.

please Do Not write French coffee press. IT IS A BIG LIE. Not working!

what can i do in this situtation. what do you advise ?

i have 2 kg powder more.

i do not like this tek because of filtering problem. i want to collect as much as i can and never touch this tek again.

there are two tek i am thinking for the next extraction.

one is

very famous http://video.google.com/...cid=-2164471661630252647

and the other is classic a/b extraction. with acetic acid . sodyum hydroxide and xylene.

which one do you recommend ?

i read that if i am going to make an a/b extraction. then i need 10+ xylene pulls to collect all the alkoloids. is it really true ?

please help me soon. 3.5 kg dry powdered cacti's destiniy is now on your hands. thank you all...
 

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mew
#2 Posted : 7/14/2012 10:48:06 PM

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the trick is to use the least amount of water possible to make a cacti paste and bassify it

you learned 2 things, why you should not do large scale extractions without experience and how to saturate your nps without getting emulsions (as i just mentioned)

luckily you have 2 kgs more.


you couldve tried making a tea and acetone bombing it to precipitate cellulose and other non actives to make the tea less viscous, but mew still suggests bass paste


mew has tried xylene and naoh with hcl and it worked very well, he cleaned his twice with acetone after


if you want to try to save your situation there are a few things to try
1. heat the solution in a double boiler
2. vibratation to aggitate layers to separate
3. add NaCl to further polarize your aqueous phase
4. add more xylene to dilute the amount stuck in the aqueous phase and continually draw it off and salt it ( you will lose xylene but whatever, you will retrieve more alkaloids than just salting what you already have)
5. perhaps your aqueous phase is not basic enough, you might try adding more bass



 
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#3 Posted : 7/15/2012 3:06:36 AM

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gotta work with smaller batches man. Who knows if your snot will thin out, but I've seen this mistake made before with 500g and what helped was letting the snot sit still for 2 days and chilling it in the fridge. The emulsion finally separated into an aqueous layer covering the snotty sludge at the bottom.
 
mew
#4 Posted : 7/15/2012 5:17:14 AM

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just chilling dosent work nearly as well as chilling then heating then chilling then heating

or just heating

atleast you didnt botch 6 kilos or something
 
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#5 Posted : 7/16/2012 4:39:55 AM

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Hi Tryp, this may be too late to be of any use, but when I do the 69Ron tec using limonene I put globs of the cactus/water/solvent mixture into a handkerchief and squeeze it to get the solvent out. Here is a link to pictures of what I'm talking about:
Limonene Retrieval

Good luck, I know how frustrating it gets!
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