I would like to ask for all who have been to the realms.

When do you know (based on your experience) if and when an entity is truly benevolent?

The dark side has a way of manipulation and deception, how do you truly know that those allies, angelics, friends, teachers, etc that you meet and give you those positive benevolent vibes aren't actually demonic or negative based forces in disguise?

Many on here claim and have mentioned that there are many negative/dark entities that are millions upon millions if not billions upon billions if not trillions upon trillions if not infinitely far more wise, intelligent, and knowledgeable. Beings at that level, hell, humans could be like dogs are to us if not like ants, and a crazy psycho killer could be petting a dog while the dog smiles and laughs and the dog would never know because it could never fathom or ever attain such heights in knowledge or conception. This can be assured, just put an average Golden Retriever in front of Hitler or Mike Tyson and it will still beam out those heavenly smiles/pants. What if it's like the same way for travelers (humans) to these realms.

What if the deception is so great that it's incomprehensible?

If it truly is that way, how would we even begin to answer your question?

As far as "benevolent" entities, how do you know you aren't perceiving the experience incorrectly? There's way too many subjective factors to really give a definitive answer.

But, it could just be me, I don't really believe in such things.

How do we know for certain what we perceive good to be is actually good. Or how do you know white is white, or black is black? You dont. Its all in your head either way. Eventually.

There are a lot of threads about whether or not the entities are real. I don't personally think it can be answered in a yes/no manner, since the definition of "real" becomes so fluid. It all may be a manifestation of your self, entities included, yet at the time your definition of self may be much broader than normal.

Most conversations with the entities tend to be hard to decipher, ambiguous, very open to interpretation. Most travelers who have regular entity contact will tell you to take these messages with a grain of salt.

I regularly encounter the same guardian entity, and the vibe is very paternal and protective. I don't ever think to directly ask it questions, but it's always been a welcome, if not slightly unsettling, presence. So far I have had no reason to doubt this being's intentions. But I also understand that it will not stop me from harming myself- that's my responsibility to look after.

You can never really be sure... But generally speaking you're not going to run into any con artists in there who are presenting themselves as benign when in fact they are not. You may encounter a few reports of this kind of experience, but they are rare enough that you have to wonder if you're not just seeing something about the person having the experience. A person with deceitful tendencies may run into deceitful entities.

I think it's similar to being able to trust people here in the "real world." There are plenty of sketchy people out there who may try to manipulate or take advantage of you, but there are definitely loads of good and trustworthy people out there, too. Though you get really deep into the DMT realms extremely quickly, I still believe that, as in the real world, what you bring to the table decides what is given to you. If you're a kind, giving person, and trust your nature and the nature of the universe, then generally you'll come across positive, trustworthy people. It seems a little trickier to bring your good energy into your DMT trips, but you can definitely learn how, and you definitely learn how to interact with entities and know what you can trust. For me, it's mostly done by the feelings that are exchanged.

The shaman I worked with in Peru was asked this very question. The Shipibo very much beleiev in so called evil spirits and feel its not safe to drink aya without a healer present. I do not fully agree with their views. For starters I don't believe in evil or demons but they do.

So when I asked how you would know the difference because they described these spirits as being tricksters and can and will at times do harm even physical harm. The answer wasn't all that exciting Mateo simply said it takes time and experience to learn how to identify evil spirits.

He did say that in his opinion most of these evil entities are created by our thoughts and fears but not always.

I agree on this point. Put it this way, Ayahuasca has been described as being a bit of a "out there" experience, which is open to interpretation. Wheras in contrast, Iboga is direct. (as an example)




Ayahuasca can help shed some clues, but the rest is up to us.



This!

...IMO, i think Ayahuasca is very much presenting people with an understanding of their own inner truths. Generally those people THAT have problems have them because they spend a lot of energy hiding themselves from themselves, even to the point that they forget to realise these problems, and live the lie.

Ayahuasca removes that veil and makes them see the errors of their ways in a cryptic "out there" fashion, like malevolent entities for example. Generally the person will in time realise the message, since Ayahuasca has a way of removing judgement, thus allowing the drinker to "face some home truths".

I take the traditional shamanistic viewpoint when it comes to this subject.

Although somewhat useful useful as a reference point I put very little faith in the Jungian/Fruedian ideas of modern psychology when it comes to psychedelic exploration. I personally think that our modern understanding of the universe and of human awareness is elementary at best in comparison with the knowledge of the ancients...

From my experience with angels and demons, I have indeed seen that Demons will try to imitate the angelic beings in order to deceive. This trick is not easy for them to pull of however and to the trained eye there is just no comparison...IMO it's a matter of training your eyes to perceive energy as it flows directly.. Then you can't be deceived.

Also when an angelic entity makes contact with a human being it is protocol for that angelic entity to identify themselves to you in a way in which you will recognize them as being a part of your DNA memory. To put it simply and in a metaphorical way the angels carry a special badge or crest of angelic royalty that cannot be counterfit by dark forces.

Of course this is just my suggestion, opinion, view point etc....

one has to be careful of human constructs like good evil , demonic.

when exploring hyperspace you have only your instincts to work with.
there is plenty of smoke and mirrors going on in there sometimes its hard to interpret a given experience.

I work on a regular basis at stripping away my own projections on a give experience and try to see it for what it really is. Many times our inate fear plays a huge role in how we perceive things.

whats left when there is no fear?

MY own interpretation is that any kind of strange entity contact envolves some kind of organism simple doing what it does. As any lifeform does on our planet . SImilar to a bee going to a flower or any kind of simple directive an organsim follows. I submit good and evil does not play into these behaviors at all.

there is self preservation to keep in mind and thats where the fear comes from.

Felnik said:



And when that organism is "just doing what it does" by chewing savagely at the back of my neck with stubby broken teeth while one hoofed tentacle is firmly gripping on my jugular vein with razor claws then I will try to keep in mind that evil does not play into the behavior of the thing. it's just following a simple directive like pollination.

My point is..... What if an entities "simple directive" is predatory and they intend to destroy human beings?...you might not call it "evil" or "demonic" but I think it would still fall into the category of "not good". At least not good for humans..

NIce description , lets agree to disagree . I'm good with that.

Felnik

I agree, and I do appreciate and respect where your coming from. My apologies if I at times come off as a tad argumentative. It's just that my experience with these "entities" both light and dark has been rather drastic so my tendency might lean towards the dramatic. It does not mean that I don't still appreciate your opposing viewpoints on things.