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I had gotten my hands on an ounce of rue a while back, and have five grams left of it. I was going to take three of those with some mushrooms the other day, but decided to save the rue. Im interested in exploring rue in itself, and was curious as to how much I should take? I have taken as much as three grams before, and have never gotten sick off of it, which I have read happens a lot. Would the three grams alone be enough for a harmala experience? Or should I take more? Also, will the nausea possibly get bad or noticable at a higher dose? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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No one has experience with this at all? I would greatly appreciate some feedback before trying it out. Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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BaconBerry
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Might as well take all five grams, if that's all you have. Rue's cheap, you can always get more and play around. The Shift is About to Hit the Fan
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Rennasauce Man
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3 grams is enough for me. But I'm pretty small. I say if it doesn't bother your stomach however your taking it already at 3g, then why not try 4g? You may also want to take 3g to see how it compares to the rue/mushroom experiences as well. They do get a bit more nauseating at higher doses, tea is easier on the gut than capped rue, but personally i just extract them and take the pure alkaloids. Ime, its far easier on the gut that way, and you can mix them with something that doesn't taste bad like juice. Some of the nausea is unavoidable though, that is its caused by the alkaloids and the higher you dose the worse it gets. An empty stomach helps, and theres a motion sickness like nausea with harmalas @ high doses, so laying down and being still helps w/that. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
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I have done the rue and mushroom mix a few different times now Day Tripper, so I should be able to tell the difference between the rue alone and with the mushrooms. I dont intend to really have a psychedelic experience from just the rue, but I know something will happen...Im happy if it just increases my high from my cannabis, since I have terrible tolerances. Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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I would definitely do all 5 grams
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So 5 grams is actually still safe to consume? I dont have any experience with that high of doses, nor do I know what that kind of dose actually does to someone. How much would actually be to much? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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veni, vidi, spici
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How longs a piece of string? Different people react differently, I have read people getting effects at 3g but personally I don't get noticeable effects until I get to about 6/7g. I would just eat all 5 and see what happens. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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Ok, Ill eat it all...but I need to wait for a day that I am eating the right foods. We shall see how it goes. Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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veni, vidi, spici
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There's no food interaction with Rue because its a RIMA. not an MAOI. But I always like to take it on an empty stomach. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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So no matter what I eat, excluding things such as stimulants and what not, I should be perfectly ok? Even safe with tyramine? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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veni, vidi, spici
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Don't eat stimulants like speed or ecstasy, but foods are fine. Do a search on RIMA's and something should come up. INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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I highly highly recommend brewing it as opposed to just eating it. Take it and lay down in silent darkness. Also, don't resist the purge. If you get a full on psychedelic dose there will be nausea but it should be manageable and these things help
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Homo-divinorum
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I would also recommend taking all 5g. I have experimented with rue by itself, and I will tell you this: If you underestimate it, it will kick your butt. Be prepared for loads of tracers, auditory hallucinations, and a queasy stomach. If you need to puke, then go and get it over with. You're better off that way. Last time I did rue by itself, i took nearly 6g gel capped. I was TOO HIGH to smoke even the littlest bit of cannabis.  Let the plants guide you, for they teach lessons beyond what we humans can offer.
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Explorer, Creative and Curious
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Rue sounds awesome!  How long does it last? The length of a string?  Done: THC - LSD - MESC - MDMA - Shrooms - DMT / Want:Hyperspace travel - World Peace
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Yes, 5 grams is definitely a decent amount. I've done as high as 8 grams and was fine. And by "fine" I mean I was tripping balls....but definitely not an issue.
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I am 225lbs and I usually go for 4grams in crushed in gel caps to potentiate DMT. 5 grams by itself will do me just fine! Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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