I'm reading a book called School of outer body travel version 2.0 which is free.http://obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf It gets straight into the techniques of astral projection a few pages into the book.

It says to set your alarm so you sleep for 6 hours. Then wake without opening your eyes and try and separate your spirit from your body. Followed by two 2exercises from the 5 exercises. The book says I have a 50% chance of having an out of body experience however I'm not sure how my clozapine will interact.

The only time I had non DMT astral travel happen was while I was in a hynogogic state.
I got up and turned around and saw myself lying there...

So I would agree that a hypnogogic state is your best bet at having a non-DMT out of body experience.

This interests me. I'll have to check out that link tomorrow. What's your experience with these type of things DNA?

Almost none, however I've done a bit of lucid dreaming.

Lucid dreaming is easy. Do reality checks(google it) throughout the day. This is a way to check that your awake or sleeping. Anything you do constantly awake you will do when your asleep.

On top of doing reality checks wake yourself up multiple times in the night because your brain has a habit of deleting your dream memories.

I've tried the reality checks to no avail. Unfortunately I currently trying to find out how to get my dream recall back period right now, so that def wouldn't be much help. I also have little experience myself. Only 2 lucids under my belt. I used to have extremely vivid dreams every night but then something changed.

I have had conversations with people who've claimed to have obe's even some claimed on demand. But have not been privileged to them helping with such things. I've read tons of books online and websites teaching different techniques. I was once able to get to the vibrational state that one guy, can't remember the name, outlined in his writing about techniques.

I had laid east to west, or vice versa can't remember. I started doing breathing exercises that I had actually unknowingly taught myself. I was able to slow my breathing down to the point where I almost couldn't tell whether I was actually breathing or not. That's when it started to happen. Anyways I ended up too grounded and nothing happened past the vibrational state.

I had accidentally stumbled upon learning how to control my breathing. I just started doing it all of a sudden, while laying in bed trying to fall asleep. It would put me in a strange state of mind. I got pretty good with it.

I find it harder to do nowadays. I wished I wouldn't have ever stopped doing it. I need to start practicing it again.

these instructions are literally 1000 times easier to follow than in the astral dynamics book

Robert Monroe is the guy I was talking about. Started googling astral projection stuff and finally stumbled upon his name.

I'm kind of surprised there aren't that many posts on this topic. Seems to me that it would be more common amongst pschonauts.

theres allways astralpulse.com this is a dmt website

Precisely my point. With DMT you experience OBE's. This would lead me to believe that those who try DMT, would be more subject to trying OBE's outside of drugs use. And those are the people I would see having better results beings they have already experienced them.

Meditation is obviously a good starting point. Many nexus members practice meditation on a regular basis.

I'm limited in my abilities. So have you tried those techniques? Awesome book you posted by the way. Thanks for that.

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anrchy the first night I tried its techniques I almost astral projected.

It was quite a strange/awesome feeling my spirit hovering just above my body. I'm going to try and blast my spirit out my window tonight to try and leave the constraints of my body. Its seems on my meds I need to be a bit more forceful to separate my spirit from my body.

That's awesome!
If it weren't or the fact that I'm dead tired when I get off work and go straight to bed and crash, I would be trying this every night. I hate this shift it's gonna make me go crazy and eat some ones face.

Lame, my medication made me so sedated that when I woke up to do the exercises I was too tired.