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#1 Posted : 6/24/2012 1:20:50 PM
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Hello everyone, I'm new to this forumSmile

This post is to say Hi to the forum, and to share my crazy 2c-b experience which some might be interested to read. Lets say it was more of a ''psychedelic/consciousness'' experience, because the word 2c-b is too limiting to what I am about to write, but first, lets talk briefly about my experience with psychedelics.

I was interested in psychedelic drugs long before I had access to them. Well about 9 months ago I moved to a place where I can finally get access to them, and have experimented quite a lot during this time.

I've noticed, at least with LSD and 2cb (since I have most experience with them) that there is a certain ''psychedelic'' feel, I don't know how to discribe this, it's sort of like a new sense unlocked for me to experience, and I associate them with geometric patterns/kalaedioscopes. Kalaedioscope are probably one of the main features of a psychedelic trip, where it feels like these patterns are a part of creation and allow everything to be. During this ''psychedelic'' experience I can become very energetic. At this state, I can guide myself and study the trip, going deeper and deeper into the psychedelic experience, no movement, just with my mind. This experience doesn't happen on every trip, but can happen any time during the trip, being very intense even after the peak is over. I feel a sense of understanding about everything, a connectedness to the universe where everything is just flowing as ONE ( I & everything else) and I tend to be awake and joyful, and feel like im sparkling, it feels like the energy in my body is so intense, like increasing in frequency and sometimes I start to shake intensly with energy feeling as if I'm disintegrating into light. This psychedelic feeling is usually felt when tripping with others, and sometimes I can literally ''feel'' other people who are tripping.
When I'm tripping, I like to spend some time alone and explore consciousness.
Anyways, that was a quick paragraph of what I will say about the word ''psychedelic'', which is relevant to the below post about my last night speechless 2c-b experience.

*Can you please describe what ''psychedelic'' means to you, or at least what would you associate the term with?*

Now, a crazy trip report:
So, last night I took 40-50mg of 2cb alone, which is quite a high dose. During the trip I smoked weed, listened to music, explored visuals & visions, was in complete darkness and silence at for some time and etc. I even resolved some personal issues and shed some tears releasing supperssed emotions. It felt wonderful... fully feeling, accepting & releasing an emotion I could not earlier understand.

It was quite an intense trip, visuals were incredible, and I definitely did have this ''psychedelic'' feel! But being quite tired and 3 hours gone by since i've taken the drug, I decided to just chill and surf the internet and smoke more weed so I can fall asleep, wanting to get up early in the morning.

Well that's when I decided to explore concsiousness, actually, since I was already having this ''psychedelic'' experience . I thought about who 'I' am, but I couldn't point him out. So I continued searching, going deeper and deeper into a psychedelic experience, the ganja intensifying it, and the geometric patterns are flowing with the experience. I continued exploring, now instead of looking for who this ''I'' is, I focus on the experience that ''I'' am/is experiencing... this life that is happening, which we perceive with our senses.
Then I realized something, I realized that ''I'' was happening, ''I'' was this experience. I was getting sucked deeper and deeper into the psychedelic world here, which feels so true and real. So there I was, experiencing this, I was everything, I was the sounds, the sensations, everything I saw, everything I sensed with my senses was I. I literally saw ''I'', saw this experience, the me that's happening. Not with a sense of sight, but it was more of.... eh I cannot describe it. It was beyond the me I normally know, beyond the identity I created for myself.

Then I thought ''What if I die, this identity, this human experience vanishes, what is left'', and WOW, the human experience started shifting, ''I'' was not in a human experience, it looked/felt like the kalaedioscopes were shifting reality into something beyond what we can perceive as human beings, it had a ''vision'' to it, which looked like this ''I'' was some advanced intelligence, ''I'' was everything, ''this experience'' was everything, it was you, me, the table that was infront of me, the bed I was lying on, except these things were not as labelled, they just were ''IT!''.

This was all now happening very fast I believe, I was going DEEP, my human experience continuing to shift in a direction which I can't point out, shifting into something else, beyond this experience, something which felt like death, death of the human experience that is. At this point it started getting VERY scary. I could guide myself towards this experience and go deeper, which felt like the ultimate truth, but if I continued to go there, I felt like I would never come back. So I started to resist as I was getting terrified. ''What will happen if I go deeper? What is there to see beyond this?'', the psychedelic experience was pulling me. It was like this life is ALL an illusion, our/mine/your (all is one) Illusion. This was all created by me/us/whatever, and I was going beyond it, beyond the matrix.

I thought if I had gone further, I would enter a different world, a COMPLETELY different world/universe that HERE I would probably not exist and never have existed, that this experience would vanish like a dream and I will be set free from this scary experience that is going on, and nothing that exists now would ever have existed in the place I was about to enter. BUT, I also thought thtat if I enter this place, I will experience life/me there, but I might have just really gone crazy HERE (in this ''life''Pleased, psychosis. I did not want to enter, this was too intense, I was scared, I thought of experiences I've had here, my family, it would be a pitty to leave everything. I said my name to my self to make sure I was still here as ''me'' that I know. I though of what I look like so I could remember. I had to think of this human life in order to bring myself back completely and avoid the presence of this psychedelic experience, I was on a survival mission here. I frequently adjusted the light levels in the room to the point where I feel most relaxed and back on earth, in this solar system. If my thoughts wander anywhere towards personal expansion it would be a chain reaction and I would again start getting closer to discovering who ''I'' am and see ''I'' beyond my identity, this is what I was avoiding, I don't know why. I even thought of coca cola commercials to bring me back to this ''society'' hah.

I continued to focus myself back here, until I could fall asleep, and now awake in the next morning. Good to be alive ;p

During the experience, I was going to write down knowledge I gained, keywords, phrases so I can remember this experience today and analyze it today, but I couldn't because if I start writing or typing it then I would be typing the ''truth'' that I realized, which would then remind me of the truth and lead me away from this human ego experience and once again pull me towards my true ''I'' beyond my human identity, which would always scare me. I even thought that if I tried to write it down today while sober, I would go back to this ''true'' experience, and it felt like I really would, because it was so true and understandable.

I cannot remember and explain the experience to the level that I experienced it, I even forgot quite a lot of it and how to comprehend it as i did before. The experience above is not accurate as no psychedelic experience can be linguisticly communicated, I believe. We can only read/listen to it and try to comprehend.

I also had visions of places I was experiencing before, not in this life, but they felt like dreams.

I forgot to mention that the night before I had some Ayahuasca. Only the b. caapi slightly hit me tho, but I doubt it had anything to do with this experience.
What are your thoughts? Have you ever had similar experiences?

Thank you for reading this, please share what you canSmile
 

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#2 Posted : 6/24/2012 10:31:57 PM

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I think it was in South Africa i read the seers there the magic men, started to use locally sold 2-cb instead of their customary plants which were not as safe and such, they said "The 2-cb could take them to the same place"
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#3 Posted : 7/12/2012 2:23:50 PM
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Yeah I can definitely relate to this , to be honest when I seen this I made an account just to post this .. just make note that im a rather paranoid person but im trying to work it out, I have a lot of enemies from when I was a stupid kid.

Im seriously in a bit of a head wreck myself at the moment , I know your talking about 2c-b but about 3 days ago I decided to take 2 acid blotters by myself having done it before and having a great times just sitting alone listening to music and enjoying the beauty of everything , I thought I knew acid but man was I wrong , I had just watched the film inception the night before so it was fresh on my mind , anyways I took the acid around 9am (I like to do it early when its bright out so Im not up all hours of the night) and waited for the brilliance to begin as you do .. Then I got into a chain of thinking about life and what I am , I definitely didnt see it coming but by the time it did it was too late I was thinking about dreams and layers and dreams within dreams and how they feel completely real while your in them then when you wake up you realise it was a dream except because of the lsd it felt like I was discovering some secret truth about the universe , I somehow went into some state of mind where I could see patterns and infinite layers in everything and they would go deeper and deeper and morph into anything and everything but it was all the same thing it just looked different , I began to forget what I was but then I realised this is what I am (Life), I am the universe (some all knowing entity that can create worlds with imagination) and this entity is so sad that it had to break itself down into infinite layers of fractal patterns in nature just to forget that it knows everything so it can experience the beauty of life because lets face it if you've ever played computer games you'll know once you done everything or if you use cheats the game loses its spice you know that stuff that makes it what it is then you get bored , then I started to think has this happened to me ? has the fact that I know understand we are just one entity imagining itself taking on different characters and talking to itself from different angles and perspectives in an Idea created by us (We ? all ? It?) through nature and its complexity ? have we given ourselves a brain that is not able to understand everything on purpose so we can have fun ? ....

Anyways I cant remember too much for the next hour or so it was pretty blurry but then after having this realisation something strange happened .. and scary .. I started thinking real hard while in some little "bubble of thought" saying What Am I ? to myself and then it was like a drop of water in my Consciousness and I fell out of perspective with my body and was looking from a point of view that I could only call infinity , its like I could see the whole entire existence of everything it was like a big circle fractal image with skinny lines stretching out and them lines had little branches with more smaller branches and so on and at will I could zoom right into certain areas of this fractal and It would morph into these crazy realitys with laws of physics that I could see myself creating (who knows how) with SOOO much complexity then I realised if my mind is doing this then that must mean that life is just and Idea ... just an Idea that we created ourselfs at birth we get so caught in the moment that we just keep going and going and building up this little fantasy that "We" call life , and the way the system is set up it tells you that your this "Human" that cannot be changed this physical being when really your just pure imagination breaking itself down deeper and deeper , then I got more scared and panicked ... Just like you said in your post it was like I could see this place now would that mean I can just go back here at will once I understand how ? then I started thinkin maybe I wouldnt come back like Id go somewhere else and keep living but my body here would be whats called a psychotic or schizophrenic and I just couldt stand leaving my family and becoming such a burden to them and I tried (and succeeded) at snapping out of the trip though it took a while I spent a lot of time walking back and forward (I think) to me it felt like I was still walking trough these little "bubble" worlds or parallel universes , everything was also completely distorted or transformed for a while WOAH what a rant ..


Anyways now that its over I wonder if maybe im just part of my own imagination and so are you but you just dont no it and its made me paranoid I feel like I could be dragged from this "view point" at any minute and just enter some different existence if I think About it too much , I keep telling myself its just a trip but it wont help I have these weird feelings in my head that wont go away And I dont know what to believe I almost at one time felt like watching STUPID television just to bring me back down to a level of unintelligence which is very hard to do any help would be appreciated ..
 
 
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