i have experience with 2c-d 2c-p 2c-i and a lot of experience with 2c-e

2c-e at higher doses is very visual i found 2c-p and 2c-d to be very dull but 2c-i is a very nice straight trip people have told me it is close to mescaline i am not sure i have never taken mescaline but can say 2c-i and 2c-e in the right setting could be great but its still a drug and is dangerous make sure you stay hydrated and urine a lot these drugs can be very intense.

trend lightly and you will enjoy

act like your a bad ass and you will prolly fry your self.
lol
just my 2sense

I have combined 25 mg 2c-i with ~800 mg dextromethorphan polistirex (my dex tolerance was pretty high at that point. Probably not a good thing...). It was an enjoyable trip, I was more functional than I'd expect, only problem was some pretty serious bladder irritation that increased as the night went on. I attribute that more to the DXM. On it's own, I've tried 2c-i at a dose of about 25 mg. It was nice and social, but definitely not anything I would call psychedelic.

when i added any serotogenic hallucinogen with and nmda receptor type drug ive always gotten blasted into hyperspace or even farther.


I´m starting to think that this is why ayahuasca is so special, with harmalas having these properties and all.

I think I'll throw in my experiences with 2Cs, too...

25I-Nbome 500µg blotters are nice, the first trip I had with them resulted in a shroomy vision and a body/head-feeling comparable to MDMA that lasted for 7h + 5h afterglow. Had 10 trips in ~ 3-4 months and experienced no side effects besides minimal vasoconstriction during the trip.

But don't make the mistake and do 25I after working out. I was jogging the other day with my Nike Frees and the calves were pretty stressed. After some hours I thought having a trip is a good idea. I was wrong. The onset was pretty intense and enjoyable (like being blasted into space) but the vasoconstriction in my calves became somewhat unpleasant. To the point where I thought I might loose a leg. I fixed this with applying a burning saliva stem all over my leg to make me feel it again. I can't say it was a head trip or a real body problem, but it was unpleasant and scary to a point. I don't want to experience this again, so no sports or sore muscles before doing 25I. BTW my leg was fine after the trip wore off besides 10 or 20 burning scars with a ~ 3mm diameter.

Currently I'm trying out 2C-E. I like it. Up to now only in the 7mg range because I don't have the desire for an intense trip. Yesterday I had a Redbull and some hours later a green tea + a 7mg capsule. 2C-E hinders tasks involving planning your time ahead like cooking a meal (vegetarian chili), but after some clumsy attempts I finally managed it. Shopping was okay, communication with the sales assistant at the checkout was manageable. Even being nice
But social interaction was not the thing I sought for. Bodyfeeling was again like MDMA/A but not so strong. Vision was slightly shroomy but only referencing it. No full blown visuals. Yet this sweet feeling inside: "Yeah, being on this planet is so awesome!" Went to the botanical garden and had a big smile for hours. Sweating/body-temperature was okay, just drank alot. Some testes-shrinking for half an hour or so. After relieving myself it went away. Walked for ~ 2 hours with ease and then went home listing to music for hours, still smiling. The trip lasted 10h and resulted in high spirits and no side effects.

Up to now a nice substance one can easily integrate it into daily activities without having awkward feelings or the need for special preparations.

my 2 cents on 2c (sorry for pun)

If you can put up with the burn, I believe 2C's best enjoyed insufflated. Doses are normally a fraction of oral approx 1/3-1/2. Ive tried 2cb oral a few times at around 20mgmark and found it pleasant but underwhelming, 10mg insufflated produced noticeable euphoria and some visuals and light hearted trip. It is pretty easy to titrate your dose as effects come on quickly. 2CE is quite effective orally, more visual but no euphoria, 15 mg produced a +++ trip. Snorting 2ce lead to an extremely painful burn accompanied by outrageous visuals floor melting etc.

Also combining 2c with an maoi is risky especially if you have little experience with 2cs in general. Take care and enjoy...

mescaline and other cacti phenylthylamines are vastly superior to 2c anything imho. i have a great deal of experience with 2ce and 2ci, i prefer 2ce over 2ci but i prefer mescaline/cacti over all of them. i also prefer 25i nbome over 2ci but not over 2ce.

mescaline experiences have proven to be profound on a level i havent known on 2ci, 2ce, or 25i nbome. ive dosed 30 mg of 25i nbome, yes 30, it was powerful but not anything like when mescaline is considered powerful. ive had 50 mg of 2ce and 40 mg of 2ci as my highest doses and both of those doses didnt rival a 700 mg mescaline experience.


at best 2ci/2ce/25i nbome are inadequate substitutes of mescaline and other cacti compounds, they dont need to be compared, infact they shouldnt be considered similliar in content of the experience, imho

wish i still had some 25i-nbome as it was so simple and infinitesimal... owell im sure there is more goodness hidden around the next turn.

I have taken 2ci several times and I noticed that at the 25mg+ mark the trip becomes insanely pliable...

Meditating on 2ci allowed me to drastically push my experience to new hyperspace like heights...

It was similar to how LSD and mescaline are highly responsive to inner silence but even more so....

I do have to remark however that the comedown of 2ci is a bit too rough for my liking compared to LSD.

i use 2ci for yoga, about 2 hours of yoga and im right as rain

(rain is always right)

30mg of nbome-25i!? wow man that is seriously weird, 1-1,5mg is a heavy dose for most so taking that much is probably lethal.

Im glad you are alright but what in the world made you think that was a good idea?

Was this 30mg of straight up nbome? because most doses for this are in the sub milligram range never heard of over 5mg dose

pure nbome, active and enjoyable at a half miligram, but truly mountains of mumbles at 10+

admittedly i had a tolerence then, but i had been dosing friends with 10 mg (myself included) without tolerance and found it to be awesome but not deep, just visual and body not empathogenic or entheogenic

as i previously stated 15 mg without a tolerence sent my girlfriend into an experience where she only saw fractals for 2-3 hours, yet could talk to me. apparently later she remembered she thought she was in the 1500s in a european shipping port, but during the experience she made no mention of this. she was a bit overwhelmed as she was alone and on an errand outside when it hit, but when she got home and it really took over it was my assuring her it was safe and i had dosed higher (honestly, that day included) that she would be fine. so she was. who knows what wouldve happened had she not have had support, she is not as much of a psychonaut or entheogenist as us nexians but she still appreciates the experience on a mystical level, perhaps she would have been fine without me, but were both glad she was safely received at home and stayed until sober.

-Comprehensive 2C-E Dosages (self-made anecdotal reports)-

I have tried 2C-E at least 30+ times at many different dosages and have seen many people try it (this is one of the few chemicals I've had extensive interaction with, not in a bragging manner at all though). Oral is the "standard" trip level while insufflation and rectal administration provide experiences twice as strong due to bypassing first pass metabolism. Out of the 2C-X's known, 2C-E seems to be the third "softest/calmest trip" 2C-X, with 2C-B coming in second and 2C-C coming in first for "sofest/calmest trip" (this is based on anecdotal reports). Do NOT use my dosages as firm evidence in trying a first dosage. In my experience, most people trip very well and hard at 10mg, but there have been a small number of people with unusual effects like DMT-like visuals or opiate-like effects.

Oral dosages (simply divide by 2 for insufflated dosages):
1-2mg: Subtle stimulation and brightening of colors
3-8mg: A very light 2C trip. Vaguely noticeable visual distortions, only detectable when one focuses. Mental shifts are apparent but do not interfere with socializing, they simply make aspects of the world seem different or more interesting. Stimulation is present but does not significantly hamper the experience, though every person I have seen try it reports different effects for different people.
8-15mg (10mg is a good dosage for first timers): Medium/moderate/common trip. Visuals are apparent regardless of choice but do not interfere with ability to do physical/mental work; many say that the visuals are of a more "digital" nature. Mental shifts are undoubtedly apparent and many compare the effects to a mixture between Ecstasy and LSD. There is an inner body feeling described by many as "neutral" or "cold", rarely has a descriptor of "warmness" been attributed to the feeling. Stimulation is strong and the experience induces a state of bliss/awe for the experienced user.
15-30mg: Strong trip. There is no turning back at this point and one is completely immersed within the trip. Strong tracer/kaleidoscopic/geometric visuals present and a very mind-warping perspective is entered. This can (and has) produce +++ and ++++ experiences for many people. Do not try this dosage unless one has a tolerance for 2C-E or is already experienced with it. Stimulation is very apparent and usually interferes with users ability to stay still when in a calm environment but not always. Sociability is not hindered but some users may find it difficult to communicate with others who are not tripping, though not always the case.
30+mg: This is a dangerously high dose for an inexperienced user. Visuals are unavoidable such as 2-foot long trails, shifting objects, and unavoidable kaleidoscopic patterns. Stimulation can be too much for many users and cause interference with a trip. The maximum dosage tried has been 50mg and this only induced a ++ state but environment an mindset greatly affected this. Set and setting are an extremely important factor at this kind of dosage.

~~Synergies with other chemicals (not all people react the same, but this is the general consensus)~~
-Marijuana: Helps to calm the user and reduce the sometimes overbearing stimulation present. Also creates a more "flowing" feel to the trip and tones down the intensity of the trip while simultaneous increasing visuals.
-4-Aco-DMT: Only tried once, mixing a tryptamine and phenethylamine tend to create an odd synergy where the "neutral/coldness" feeling is cancelled out by the tryptamine. While I wouldn't say that they necessarily compliment each other, they can do so and this mixture is completely dependent on the user.
-MXE: I speculate that because 2C-E is an outwards/sociable trip and MXE is a self-contained/inner self trip, they would create an odd synergy. Unfortunately, the few people I know who have tried this mix were not of the most educated background and could only say "I'm tripping balls man". From only one personal experience with this, I say they compliment each other greatly although one experience isn't enough to make a definitive statement.
-MDMA: Based on other people's reports. The synergy between these two is spectacular and produces profound states of bliss and euphoria. Highly recommended for the common MDMA user.
-MDPV: Based on other people's reports. Of the few people who tried this mix, all have said that it increased their energy and added a slight euphoria to the mix. Overall rated as a nice addition but not in any way necessary. Be careful as MDPV and 2C-E are stimulating and can cause overstimulation for some.

This is a summary of the experiences I have seen or seen others have.

i just did 40 mg of 2ci, holy crap that was pretty awesome. it wasnt anything compared to mesc/cacti as it didnt take me deep, just gave me a really awesome visual experience + euphoria + a slight empathogenic sensitivity.

the next day i woke up and immediately saw fractals they soon faded, my limbs were tingly and i lost feeling a couple times in my extremities. definitely recovering today... it was fun none the less and it seems like i am no longer hesitant to dose higher with it as i was. the body load subsided a few hours into it and was totally eclipsed by the effects of the 2ci

Did you try meditating on it? I find it is easy to "push" up to a +4 experience

I entered a mayan hyperspace zone on the stuff

mew was drinking pretty heavily and used it as a purely recreational "enhancement"

i will be trying that dose again in a non alcoholic context, and will put it to a bit more use. this was just my getting a feeling for that level of 2ci

during the experience i forgot how to turn the hot water on vs cold water as i was in the shower and only by luck did i guess which way to turn the knob on my shower, which ive been accustomed to for 8 years...

also i spent a large amount of time stabbing a wooden indian with various knives. as a kid i had a tendency to slice fruit and bottles and stab my butchers block but havent done it in years, and last night i pretty much methodically assasinated this life sized wooden indian... a bad idea in retrospec

i remember laying down and being in total of the experience, massive tracers, fractal vision (it was slightly challenging to see through all the edges in the air)


i woke up this morning and the first thing i saw was my entire ceiling swimming in fractals and a massive eye looking down, then i came too and it vanished.

i spent most the day napping, i felt seriously drained. probably alot of it was due to the excessive alcohol aswell, but as previously mentioned i had numbness and tingles in my limbs as well as a weird feeling in my chest.

as it got dark/ i was in a dark room i noticed that my vision in my left eye was strobing especially in the periphery. i also noticed (rather couldnt help but noticed) when the lights are off i see blackness and a lighter contrasting blueness swirling and making large shapes. i took a shower in the dark and the blackness was so transformative i had to stop and think that it was just in my head to ward off insecurities. it makes large black shapes that morph and totaly obstruct my vision behind them, yet like a floater in your eye when you look in another direction they follow your eyesight there.... very odd. yet another hppd symptom

it seems after large doses of phenylthylamines (which is really all i do) i end up with various hppd symptoms. when i did my last large dose of cacti i thought objects were animals for a week or two after, now this 2ci has me seeing strobing lights and shifting blackness. odd indeed

im pretty sure i wasnt getting the full effect as i was using my FB 25i sublingually, instead of complexed in my gums or snorted... i find that 25i when complexed in my gums is rather potent at a couple mgs instead of the 10 i was taking

25I apparently becomes toxic above 10mg..from all the reading I have done on this compound..just putting that out there for anyone who is reading this. You can OD on this compound.

thanks for the info, do you mind linking a source?
ill keep the dosing under 10 mgs

there is a talk about 25I-NMOMe at the psychonautica podcast..just google it it will come up..in that podcast they talk about it and how it is thought to be toxic at 10mg and above.