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sc001
#1 Posted : 7/8/2012 5:44:07 AM
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hey all

i bought this plant when it was already established about a month ago and since it has shown good growth and i keep it indoor as it is winter here. but i have been seeing brown spots appear on edge of some leaves.

we have the reverse cycle air con on over night on about 23 degrees, to keep house warm, but it does make air very dry. i also have 2 lights a philips cool and warm wite light which i keep on for 12 hrs a day. I water the plants using water spray, and i water them 5 or so times a day where i spray the leaves and the soil so its damp.

This morning i woke up and saw the baby leaves all seemed moulded/sick just hanging loose, and this happened over night so i need to know what the problem is.

is it because the room door closed stopping air flow? too much water? not enough water?

nothing out of the ordinary has happened last night that hadnt happen before?

any ideas??
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#2 Posted : 7/8/2012 12:38:04 PM
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plants life is at stake here guys, help the poor plants out......Neutral
 
blue lunar night
#3 Posted : 7/8/2012 1:33:02 PM

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I've grown Calea z. for many years.

I think you're using way too much water. 5 times a day ?!

Try watering once every 2 or 3 days. The soil shouldn't be bone-dry, but it shouldn't be constantly saturated with water either.
Spraying the leaves isn't necessary.

Calea likes good drainage and poor soils. No fertilizer.

Calea z. usually does pretty well as a houseplant. It is more likely to have problems from too much attention, rather than too little.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/8/2012 2:18:19 PM

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^ Never grown hydroponically, sorry! I like playing in the dirt Smile

I'm not sure how well Calea would work;
it does OK indoors under fluorescent lights,
but its natural conditions are sunny/dry/poor soil,
so I'm not sure how that would translate to Hydro.

Other plants? well there are many to choose from,
but Salvia d. likes it cool, shady, and moist...
however she can be picky, and I could see her rejecting hydroponics.
But only one way to find out !

Desmanthus illinoensis (Illinois bundleweed) isn't too hard to grow, might be worth a try.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/9/2012 7:19:59 AM
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blue lunar night wrote:
I've grown Calea z. for many years.

I think you're using way too much water. 5 times a day ?!

Try watering once every 2 or 3 days. The soil shouldn't be bone-dry, but it shouldn't be constantly saturated with water either.
Spraying the leaves isn't necessary.

Calea likes good drainage and poor soils. No fertilizer.

Calea z. usually does pretty well as a houseplant. It is more likely to have problems from too much attention, rather than too little.


so do you mean water it with water spray once every 2-3 days? i usually give it 5-6 sprays just so the soil is damp. is that enough water for 2-3 days? concidering the air in house can get very dry??

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#6 Posted : 7/9/2012 7:37:10 AM
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mescaline-man wrote:
Can you take another picture from a littler further back it's a little blury.

What kind of soil are you using how large is the pot?
What water do you use to water the plant with? I would use distilled or bottled water for the spray bottle. Do you check the ppm of your water source? I used to use tap water to water my vegetable plants and they would grow soooooooo slow and look terrible and i figured out it was the ppm and the ph of my tap water. My ppm = 600's My ph = 8-9 conclusion = horrible dying plants. I'm sure you know this already but you need a clean ppm water say 0-150ppm at most to start out with because the soil or nutrients you add will raise is substantially. The ph need to be between 5.5 - 7.5 if you want any good growth at all.

This is what my ppm pen says on the back:

How pure is your water?
TDS is parts per million (ppm)
0-50= Ideal drinking water, Reverse Osmosis, DI, Distillation etc.
50-100= Carbon filters, mt. springs, aquifers
100-200= Hard Water
200-400= Marginally Acceptable (Average Tap Water)
400-500= High TDS from tap or mineral water
500+ = U.S. EPA's max contaminant level (And mine was around 650 Wut? that was when i lived in Texas though)

Where i live now my ppm is 50-100.

I won't fuss with soil anymore now that i've learned how to grow hydroponically. Unless i get some cacti.


. I use a vegtable and heb mix soil i bought from bunnings
. i feel up water spray with filtered pura tab water
. How do i check the PPM or its source?

im actually a beginner so trying to learn as much as i can from mistakes. i have a feeling maybe i was watering too much. i was giving it 5-6 sprays about 5-6 times a day keeping the soil moist, as the air can get very dry due to the reverse cycle air con, the top soil can dry out in few hours

i have collected the leaves since they were all dying and getting wors so at least the leaves dont go to waste,dont know if it was right or wrong thing to do just seemed logical. here is the photo of the pot.
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blue lunar night
#7 Posted : 7/9/2012 11:21:57 PM

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sc001 wrote:


so do you mean water it with water spray once every 2-3 days? i usually give it 5-6 sprays just so the soil is damp. is that enough water for 2-3 days? concidering the air in house can get very dry??



i think that you should water it normally, by pouring water into the pot from a glass or watering can. once every 2-3 days max. if the soil seems to be always wet then water less often.
as mescaline-man pointed out, spraying the surface of the dirt is not really an effective watering technique.

i doubt that you'd need to spray it at all. maybe once or twice a month.
it's not a tropical plant, it's native to a drier Mexican climate.

you really like the spray-bottle, eh? Razz
 
 
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