ab intra
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Speaking from self experiences, doses and age are really not significant factors at all. When I turned 18 I ingested close to 9 grams of amazonian shrooms, loss all connection to self and reality, however I didn't pop myself in the head, I tripped! Its in your head
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Explorer
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ayaya wrote:I can understand how this could happen. It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid.
It doesn't depend upon age or experience when you're caught up in it---
That is the great thing about DMT--- within 30 minutes the drug will have completely cleared. I second these
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 3207 Joined: 19-Jul-2011 Last visit: 02-Jan-2023
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tele wrote:ayaya wrote:I can understand how this could happen. It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid.
It doesn't depend upon age or experience when you're caught up in it---
That is the great thing about DMT--- within 30 minutes the drug will have completely cleared. I second these i own a gun and don't shoot myself in the head.. but what would i know, i am stupid for owning a gun  My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
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DMT-Nexus member
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I have a loaded shotgun next to the bed. A custom AR15 that I built on my dresser. 4 loaded clips in the dresser. 100's of rounds for the rest of the guns that I own also in my room. Everyone that has access to these have been taught proper weapon handling. They are rendered inoperable when the kids are around every other weekend. We will NEVER have an issue taking mushrooms in the same house. Anyone who places a loaded firearm to their head with the intent to shoot themself under any circumstances should not have access to firearms PERIOD. Anyone who takes mushrooms and then later on believes that placing a loaded firearm to their head to shoot them self in order to end the trip is an IDIOT. How can you argue that seriously? "Energy flows where attention goes" [Please review the forum Wiki and FAQ before posting questions]
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DMT-Nexus member
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ayaya wrote:I can understand how this could happen. It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid.
Yes. Only stupid people own guns.  Welcome Home Mister_Niles. We've Been Waiting For You.
"Don't worry. When it happens, you won't be able to not let it do its thing. You won't have the ability to distinguish a pen from a hippopotamus"
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Explorer
Posts: 2688 Joined: 04-Dec-2010 Last visit: 25-Oct-2016 Location: space
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Parshvik Chintan wrote:tele wrote:ayaya wrote:I can understand how this could happen. It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid.
It doesn't depend upon age or experience when you're caught up in it---
That is the great thing about DMT--- within 30 minutes the drug will have completely cleared. I second these i own a gun and don't shoot myself in the head.. Very smart... Who would anyway. It really comes down to the person and the purpose of owning a gun, if it's stupid or not.
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DMT-Nexus member
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ayaya wrote:It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid. christian wrote:Ban guns. Two of the most ignorant statements I've read here at the Nexus. (not trying to insult, it's not personal)  soulfood wrote:I could never sleep even on the tail end of a mushrooms trip. Am I alone? No, you're not alone. Something is very wrong with this story indeed.
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ab intra
Posts: 304 Joined: 07-Apr-2012 Last visit: 19-Apr-2013 Location: spirit
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I'd own a firearm too If I lived in Alaska, unless you tend on wrestling bears with your hands, which is doable on mushrooms. Its in your head
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Posts: 7463 Joined: 21-May-2008 Last visit: 14-Jan-2025 Location: the lab
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Parshvik Chintan wrote:tele wrote:ayaya wrote:I can understand how this could happen. It's not stupid--- owning a gun is stupid.
It doesn't depend upon age or experience when you're caught up in it---
That is the great thing about DMT--- within 30 minutes the drug will have completely cleared. I second these i own a gun and don't shoot myself in the head.. but what would i know, i am stupid for owning a gun me too. I've owned a few guns, i guess that would make me a barely functional idiot. I've tripped on mushrooms while owning a gun, and never shot myself in the head. I don't even think about picking up a gun while on mushrooms. ban guns? ban mushrooms. oh wait.. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 63 Joined: 21-Jun-2012 Last visit: 02-Aug-2012
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with of all this going on in the media, you know what's missing? The teens and young adults that die each year due to alcohol, and alcohol related incidents. Another missing factor is all the deaths related to prescription drugs, and prescription drug related problems are on the rise, Big time. Statistics shows that prescription related drug deaths have now outpaced Overdoses on illicit narcotics, prescription drug addiction has now outpaced greatly illegal drug addiction. I find this situation of the kid shooting himself to be very unfortunate, and my prayers go out to the family and friends of the individual. Anything written within this post is a complete work of fiction, any resemblance to reality is a coincidence.
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Rennasauce Man
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Triumph wrote:with of all this going on in the media, you know what's missing? The teens and young adults that die each year due to alcohol, and alcohol related incidents. Another missing factor is all the deaths related to prescription drugs, and prescription drug related problems are on the rise, Big time. Statistics shows that prescription related drug deaths have now outpaced Overdoses on illicit narcotics, prescription drug addiction has now outpaced greatly illegal drug addiction.
I find this situation of the kid shooting himself to be very unfortunate, and my prayers go out to the family and friends of the individual. ^^ Yep ^^ Yellow journalism like this distorts the reality that prozac/anti-depressants gone wrong probably are responsible for far more suicides than psychedelics. But to be fair suicide may have been inevitable in some of those cases w/anti-depressants. Still, theres no media firestorm when someone kills themselves (or attempts to) and they found x pharmaceutical drug in their system. Its the individuals fault here, he did not know how to deal with those type of situations on psychedelics and made a misinformed and unfortunate decision to attempt to end his life. If he had a sitter, or was more experienced in how to handle the rough rides perhaps this would never have happened. It would be interesting to know if the individual in question had past/current psychological issues or had attempted any kind of self mutilation/suicidal idealizations or attempts in the past. Still, blame the individual, not the drug. Statistically this story does not merit the credence it gets over other drug induced suicide attempts. For that matter i don't even think these kind of stories should get the media attention they do, it seems rather shallow and disrespectful to all involved to exploit its shock value for profit. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy.
In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth. This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community - and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation and practical means.” - Wendell Berry
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 63 Joined: 21-Jun-2012 Last visit: 02-Aug-2012
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Is someone on this forum good with images/design/creating flow charts? Im thinking create a very very simple flow chart of handling psychedelics like the DMT do not sit do not stand do not drive. If it's posted enough times on the internet it can go viral and help more people out. I'm hoping the community could come together to create some sort of aid to try and prevent psychedelic related injuries in the future. What does everyone think of this idea? Anything written within this post is a complete work of fiction, any resemblance to reality is a coincidence.
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omnia sunt communia!
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Triumph wrote:Is someone on this forum good with images/design/creating flow charts? Im thinking create a very very simple flow chart of handling psychedelics like the DMT do not sit do not stand do not drive. If it's posted enough times on the internet it can go viral and help more people out. I'm hoping the community could come together to create some sort of aid to try and prevent psychedelic related injuries in the future. What does everyone think of this idea? Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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IF this story is true, I think it's sad. This kid got lost in a bad trip and didn't know how to get out of it. So many people, especially youth, seem to think that psychedelics are all fun and games. I mean, just look at how many videos there are on youtube of kids playing with salvia and having no clue how to deal with it, while their so called friends just sit and laugh at them. I can't stand that crap. So glad I stumbled across a site like this one, where people show their tools, and each other, proper respect  MOST of the time  "This concludes our transmission to Oceania. However, listeners in East Asia may continue listening on the following short wave frequencies: 6110, 7230, 9565, 9760, 15160, and 15425 kilohertz."
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Glitch Modulator
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My first experience with psychedelics was with mushrooms. The trip started out with me lying in the dark after my friends left. I was lying on the rug and somehow convinced myself that if I moved off of the rug, the colors on the ceiling would kill me. After accidentally moving, and finding myself still alive, I realized how ridiculous I was being. Him thinking the gun would pull him out of the dream does not surprise me in the least. If your first dose is a large one (like mine and this kid's), fantasy and reality are not always so easy to discern. I am glad he is okay. "In a controversy, the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves" - Buddha
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Well....apparently it worked. Honestly, if you can't be trusted not to do something dangerously stupid while on Psychedelics then you shouldn't be using them. doesn't matter if it's a gun, a car or a tall building. Hope he recovers alright. As Within, So Without.
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huachumancer
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honestly, i considered shooting myself too to end an insane experience. i simply couldnt bear the agonizing insanity anylonger, i had to stop, luckily i was soo out of it, i couldnt move. tripping heavily alone is hesitantly suggested and never when you are a not familiar with the medicine of choice
it was unfortunate he had to learn this way, it is fortunate he survived for his sake and the entheogenic community.
people die from alcohol all the time, yet it still hasnt made alcohol more taboo.... funny....
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mew wrote:people die from alcohol all the time, yet it still hasnt made alcohol more taboo.... funny.... seriously, people shooting themselves on alcohol is not uncommon in comparison to psychedelics. but expecting logical reasoning in support of drug laws is having too 'high' of expectations. My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 63 Joined: 21-Jun-2012 Last visit: 02-Aug-2012
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This story is not big at all, actually today the news is talking about 3 drug related reports, 1 talks about drug use in the UK, and oxycotone is being tested for kids use in the U.S by pharmas for cancer treatments. Another report that came out today is suggesting that MDMA is more psychologically addictive than previously considered. To clarify my previous suggestion about making a warning sign is for all psychedelics in general, not just DMT which is an esoteric psych. Anything written within this post is a complete work of fiction, any resemblance to reality is a coincidence.
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Good example of bad set and setting. Kid had no idea what he was doing. Does not help that society purposly uneducates youth in reguards to drugs. Taking too much when you have no experience is stupid. Why this kid had such easy access to a gun is questionable as well..having guns is one thing..but I would not have them just laying around so my teenager can get high(most do at some point) and shoot themselves..not that most people shoot themselves while tripping..which makes me think there is more to all this than they are saying..are we sure this kid does not have some other issues to deal with? People should educate themselves..start low and take the time to learn these things slowly so you know your medicine. Taking giant full on shamanic sort of doses with little experience is stupid. Long live the unwoke.
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