Why then take something that can make you shoot yourself in the first place if this is the case?



A deluded willful act then?

The problem with shrooms or should I say their users is that they are way strong hallucinogenic drug which is used by kids to have fun these days(often at least), which occasionally leads to horrible trips such as this. Also dosing way beyond one's capacity of handling is a problem.

That reminds me of the movie Inception, you become convinced you're in a dream so as a last resort you try to kill yourself to wake up. And as we all know psychedelics can have a time dilation so that it feels like eternity. And sometimes no matter how much you try to convince yourself that it's just a drug and it's gonna end, it doesn't help, like "this time it's forever, this time I won't make it out.."

It was just a combination of very unlucky variables for this kid that led him to this. First of all you shouldn't keep a gun in the house while tripping like people mentioned, and second, you should NEVER try to end a dream by killing yourself, no matter what. Just think of it this way: you're either dreaming currently or not, and there's no way to tell the difference. If you kill yourself, you either wake up or die for real (there might be no difference between these). If you don't kill yourself, you can assign that realm as your current home-reality, and start doing all the things in it that you would in real life. IT DOESN'T MATTER if it's a dream, because currently for you it's your subjective reality, so you might as well make the best of it, no matter how nightmarish it seems. Killing yourself/waking up is always the easy way out, and nothing in life is supposed to be easy, so just get used to it.

Cheers!

Well... if I failed a suicide attempt I wouldn't admit it either. Not saying that's the deal here but I just can't buy the media when it comes to this stuff... or anything really other than sports, but that's mostly televised anyway, although uninteresting.

If you're prone to shooting yourself in the first place then maybe psychedelics aren't for you? Just sayin'

Well of course. I meant if every gun owner would be required to lock their guns before tripping would there be any sense to use such a drug in general.
I believe this kid was just a victim of deluded thinking and circumstances. Very unfortunate, I hope he recovers fully.

This kid was for sure uninformed, making stupid decisions, obviously not super intelligent.

I'm confused. Everyone left and then he went to sleep how the heck was he frying enough to think he was in a nightmare? I can tell you this, level of intelligence definitely plays a role on knowing your surroundings while on hallucinogens. I hypothesize this kid isn't very smart due to the fact he was lucid enough to think that it was a dream and that shooting himself would wake him up, he obviously had motor functions, he obviously had the ability to formulate ideas based on the mechanics of things. No matter how high you are if you can figure things out and your not dumb you would figure out that putting a gun to your head is a bad idea no matter what.

He couldn't have taken very many mushrooms. This is crazy. Another reason why informative information easily accessible to the people is extremely important.

I wish we knew time frames and amounts. We can't say a lot but I still think we can say he was dumb. Mushrooms are not deliriants.

Oh, yeah, baby. I'd call it deluded. Supremely.

Fungi in the deep south are too easy to obtain. This was just a for instance of someone getting the parts, without the knowledge to use them.
When I was in late teens, I made it a point to babysit as many people as possible for these reasons... far too dangerous for many people.



Heck, I'm just thrilled the guy shot himself in the face instead of eating someone else's face, we've all seen what happens in that scenario.

I could never sleep even on the tail end of a mushrooms trip. Am I alone? Or is this story full of holes?

i allways have a .22 around a) while tripping and b) for when i cant wake up from a nightmare

pardon the cynicism, poor kid

I think it's terribly sad in more than one way when anything like this happens. A number or circumstances in history have ended in young people attempting or actually committing suicide while under the influence of psychedelics. Every time it happens it creates a lot of victims surrounding the individual, and I'm going to go out on a limb here but I think we could all be somewhat victims as well. It's bringing unwanted media attention towards "negative" aspects of using entheogens which will just ultimately end in more scheduling and arrests if too many similar incidents occur.

Obviously if he's still telling this story then the round most likely glanced off his skull and didn't penetrate it. Thankfully he didn't die. As far as wether or not it was an accident, I would be more inclined to say it was. Did he intentionally pull the trigger? Almost surely. Was he in a state of mind where he could discern the difference between delusions and reality? Most likely not. Does that justify it and make everything alright? Thats debatable but most would argue no I assume. It's sad, but people are taking psychedelics every day all around the world and with the frequency of use, of course somewhere at some point a series of circumstances are going to come together and make things like this possible.

Tripping and guns are a no-no. Either don't have a gun in the first place or lock it up and hide the key really really well so that you are sure you wont get it.

I'm having trouble finding this story any what credible, just wow. Of course blame the substance. When really they should be throwing the book at whoever is involved with dosing the kid. This is one of the reasons why I never even mention psy's to the general public, that and I'm extremely greedy and selfish with my goodies, selling? sharing? pfft

Lmao. Wow dude that is intense.

It says that this kid thought he was still in a dream, but that's exactly what life is. Psychedelics are some of the most powerful deliverers of experience out there. If you don't have both feet planted firmly in this world before you go explore, you can get lost. I've heard of a kid pulling all his teeth out on shrooms because he thought they were demons. Kids need to be more responsible with psychedelics, I hate seeing people use them like they do weed and alcohol.

what.. you want me to wait until i am sober to decide if it is a good idea to shoot myself in the head?

We all pay the price for stupidity of this magnitude . All it is is more fuel on the fire .

Multiple levels of dumbness .

Access to loaded gun

Friends leaving badly tripping friend alone

Irresponsible dosing .
These kind of stories make me very upset.

Yes, this is a very tragic tale.

My sincere condolences to the family members.

Parshvik I do agree partially, he would of harmed himself at some point with or without the use of drugs, although one would think psy's would intervene in a more positive beneficial way. That's why none of this makes any sense. So much progress has been made to encourage the use of psy's for treating illness, not saying he was ill. While all this effort in the background is trying to prove the effectivity of treating mentally ill with lsd and other psychedelics, a travesty similar to this account arises. Which makes it hard to believe, only reinforcing the idea that there is many hidden factors which no one mentioned in the article regarding the kids environment and being.

I'm thinking this is an urban legend, just like the story about the kid who thought that he was an orange on LSD so he peeled himself and died.

This just goes to show that it's important to understand a substance before you use it, and he just took too much. I'd like to take a heroic dose of shrooms myself and journey off to hyperspace on it.

Sadly society sees this as another reason to keep these drugs illegal.

His friends should have never left after he ingested mushrooms and then drank a tea on top of it, if it was his first time he would have been going absolutely out of his mind. These drugs can and do fuck your thought process up at extremely high doses, why do a lot of people refuse to acknowledge that psychedelics can influence individuals to make very poor decisions when they've taken too much or if psychedelics just don't mix well with them?

Educate the masses about drugs and how to take them safely, then there will be less incidents like this ,or with datura, or salvia.

Luckily in the uk we have "talk to frank". Do you have this in USA?