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#1 Posted : 6/29/2012 7:30:32 PM
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So a 2 days ago i underwent an amazing San Pedro Cactus trip (it deserves to be Capitalized) and only got a few hours of sleep that night and felt totally refreshed and renewed the next day, but last night i had a crazy vivid dream that i smoked heroin out of my new glass pipe i bought for dmt i know it was heroin and not dmt in the dream. It's the only thing i remember from the dream but was so vivid that i actually felt the intense rush from the heroin and thought i was going to die and i was looking at myself somehow and had like spots on my face from what you would see on a meth user and it was wierd and i'm trying to figure out what that means. I've been wanting to do dmt for a LONG time and am kindof obsessed with it and havent even tried it. Any thoughts?
 

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#2 Posted : 6/29/2012 8:17:21 PM
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Taking a quick guess, I would think that it means that deep down to the subconscious level you, assuming you are new to ''drugs'', you are wondering if this is the right step to take. Since heroin is probably known to be the worst and most addictive drug, since DMT is a drug maybe to your subconscious level you were wondering what it means if you are doing ''drugs'', buying pipes etc and heroin was used since it's the ''worst.''
I'm not very sober right now so I'm unaware how realistic this answer is.


EDIT: I once had a dream which went for around 2 weeks almost every night, where there was a joint present, and as soon as I'm about to smoke it I wake up. When I go back to sleep the same thing happened. Now this dream was very frequent, I had no clue what it meant. Don't remember was I smoking heavily at that point or lacking weed.
 
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#3 Posted : 6/29/2012 8:21:25 PM
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psychedelic wrote:
Taking a quick guess, I would think that it means that deep down to the subconscious level you, assuming you are new to ''drugs'', you are wondering if this is the right step to take. Since heroin is probably known to be the worst and most addictive drug, since DMT is a drug maybe to your subconscious level you were wondering what it means if you are doing ''drugs'', buying pipes etc and heroin was used since it's the ''worst.''
I'm not very sober right now so I'm unaware how realistic this answer is.


Well i'm not really new to drugs but that sounds about right. I'm new to psychedelics thouugh other than weed and San Pedro
 
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#4 Posted : 6/29/2012 8:21:32 PM

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I wouldnt over-analyse it all too much; I dunno if you're familiar with heroin but a glass meth-style pipe is a poor method of smoking it.Deaths from smoking heroin are not common-unless the heroin is something like a fentanyl analogue, or heavily cut with such an agent.

Smoked heroin doesnt provide that intense a rush; rather with repeated 'toots' it builds up in effect in a way thats both unmistakeable yet subtle simultaneously.Unless of course you smoke to the point of vomiting, when the subtlety of some of its effects vanishes.

Dreams can be quite strange, and its intriguing how sterotypes can also penetrate these realms.
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#5 Posted : 6/29/2012 8:37:30 PM
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corpus callosum wrote:

Dreams can be quite strange, and its intriguing how sterotypes can also penetrate these realms.


Yes very strange! Shocked
 
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#6 Posted : 6/29/2012 10:18:06 PM

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maybe some unconscious part of you wants to smoke it.?
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#7 Posted : 6/29/2012 11:07:23 PM

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christian wrote:
maybe some unconscious part of you wants to smoke it.?

were you in a coma nearby heroin addicts recently, op?
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#8 Posted : 6/30/2012 5:22:31 AM

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PinealGland3rdeye wrote:
I've been wanting to do dmt for a LONG time and am kindof obsessed with it and havent even tried it. Any thoughts?


Maybe the heroin symbolized DMT. Often in dreams I find things are substituted for other similar things such as DMT for Heroin (both drugs). You are obviously aware of the fact that you are "obsessed" with trying DMT, maybe that played a part in substituting it for heroin as it is an "addictive" substance. Maybe you are addicted to the idea of smoking DMT?
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#9 Posted : 6/30/2012 5:51:27 AM

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I have this same dream and I wake up to me going "thhhhhip" and holding my breath!
This is crack that I am smoking. I have smoked it in the past for "fun" and is every few years. But when I have not had it in a long time, I will get these dreams. I am not interested to do it again. But my dreams are!
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#10 Posted : 6/30/2012 5:58:02 AM

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Yeah, it could easily be a stand-in symbol... One of the world's most addictive substance standing in for the world's most powerful psychedelic... As you know, dreams are not always rational.

Nobody has asked this yet, but I think it's an obvious question: do you have any narcotic use in your past? Possibly problematic use? It could be that your mind can't separate this from the very different reality of DMT use.

It's important to not put too much stock in your dream analyses. A lot of that stuff is truly random and silly, or could be interpreted any way you want. Its a freaky image you had there in your dream, but in all likelihood it means nothing significant... Just a reflection of your anticipation and anxiety in trying the spice for the first time. Relax, take a deep breath, smoke your DMT.
 
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I had a dream of doing ayahuasca before I even touched dmt! I have yet to do ayahuasca, but the dream seemed so real. I partook in the drinking of the brew, I stumbled around and went "woah!". But after my dream I realized it was nothing like aya and there was pretty much no effects. I tried to look into it like "man this is some kind of sign". But in reality it was just me manifesting it in my dream. Not something peering into the future thing.

My wife has dreams all the time and accuses me of cheating in the dreams, that they are going to come true. She has had winning lotto numbers, they never came true... How come?? Huh! Smile maybe because dreams are just a creative part of you sleeping life. You are making up stories. None of it is real! Unless they are OBE Lucid dreaming, but that takes practice.
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#12 Posted : 6/30/2012 6:38:40 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can't smoke diacetylmorphine, although I've heard you can smoke the less refined forms like black tar "heroin" and opium. When I do heroin, I prefer the IV ROA. Any other method is a waste of money, IMO.Smile

 
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#13 Posted : 6/30/2012 6:46:35 PM

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ayanami_rei13 wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Source?

I assumed the boiling point of the hydrochloride form is too high to smoke compared to freebase. I guess maybe it's possible, but there are better ROA's for real heroin.

 
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#14 Posted : 6/30/2012 7:01:01 PM

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SpartanII wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can't smoke diacetylmorphine, although I've heard you can smoke the less refined forms like black tar "heroin" and opium. When I do heroin, I prefer the IV ROA. Any other method is a waste of money, IMO.Smile




You can smoke heroin quite well, actually.
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Korey wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can't smoke diacetylmorphine, although I've heard you can smoke the less refined forms like black tar "heroin" and opium. When I do heroin, I prefer the IV ROA. Any other method is a waste of money, IMO.Smile




You can smoke heroin quite well, actually.


What form have you smoked?

 
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SpartanII wrote:
Korey wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you can't smoke diacetylmorphine, although I've heard you can smoke the less refined forms like black tar "heroin" and opium. When I do heroin, I prefer the IV ROA. Any other method is a waste of money, IMO.Smile




You can smoke heroin quite well, actually.


What form have you smoked?




I've never smoked heroin before, but I've seen people smoke heroin freebase many times. I've seen people weigh out 15-25mg with no tolerance to the drug, and be completely out for hours after smoking.
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#17 Posted : 7/1/2012 7:03:58 PM

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^^Theres an unofficial grading system of ilicit heroin, I think devised by some law enforecement authority, and its as follows:

#(ie number) 4 - this is generally regarded as the best; Ive seen it in SE Asia and its a white powder which dissolves in water without needing heat or acidification.I think its therefore likely to be a salt.Excellent effect when used IV; works but much less impressive when vaporised.


# 3- this is heroin freebase which is the 'brown' that is sold on the street.Its specifically made for smoking/vaporising and is cut around 40% by weight with caffeine which makes it smoke very well on foil.Can be prepared for injection but needs acification.

# 2-Heroin acetate or heroin freebase (uncut).

#1 -IIRC, this actually refers to morphine, as either a salt or freebase.

I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.

 
 
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