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#1 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:06:08 AM

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#2 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:18:29 AM

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Thanks for the link, good lookin out brotherSmile
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#3 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:29:37 AM

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Synthetic DMT?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Acetylpsilocin
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#4 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:34:55 AM

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#5 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:35:27 AM

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Both synthetic DMT and DMT found in nature are identical molecules, the link you references is not "synthetic" DMT. It is synthetic 4-AcO-DMT.
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#6 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:36:05 AM

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Nope. Synthetic dmt would be n,n dmt, not 4-aco-dmt. You'd be closer calling it a synthetic psilocin prodrug, assuming it acts the same way psilocybin does in the body.
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In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy.
In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
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#7 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:40:13 AM

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Here are some more examples of synthetic analogues to DMT, Their called DET though.
BTW: Aren't Magic shrooms DMT since the active compound is 4-PO-DMT?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Me-DET

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-HO-DET
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#8 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:50:29 AM

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I thought we all knew synthetic DMT exists? The DMT used by Rick Strassman was synthesized by David Nichols.

Those studies that you did not reference, how was the DMT administered?

No, psilocybin mushrooms are not DMT.

DMT refers to N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, the main topic drug of this forum. DMT(N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) is not in magic mushrooms.
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#9 Posted : 6/29/2012 2:51:06 AM

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Korey wrote:
Triumph wrote:
I've just found out that Synthetic DMT does exist and here is the kicker. It lasts 30 minutes to 2 hours on small doses. This means that it's more potent than the real thing, and it has been tested in Europe. Scientists there have said that is as safe as natural occurring DMT.


This isn't it, but these are other forms of synthetics similar to DMT. I hope its not against the rules to post information about similar chemicals that are synthetic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Me-DET

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-HO-DET



I thought we all knew synthetic DMT exists? The DMT used by Rick Strassman was synthesized by David Nichols.

Those studies that you did not reference, how was the DMT administered?


http://azarius.net/encyclopedia/17/DMT/ This article mentions some synthetic compounds, such as DET and DPT. Can be smoked like normal spice, I can't verify melting point.
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#10 Posted : 6/29/2012 5:43:23 AM

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DET, DPT, 4-ACO-DMT, 4-ho-met, 4-ho-mpt, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. dmt is the inspiration for all of them as far as i know, just like mescaline was the inspiration for phikal's goodies.

Shulgin sure did a good job at laying out the groundwork for others to follow. Thumbs up Drool
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#11 Posted : 6/29/2012 6:12:44 PM

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Triumph wrote:
BTW: Aren't Magic shrooms DMT since the active compound is 4-PO-DMT?


The link that they share is that they are both tryptamines.



Great article btw!
 
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#12 Posted : 6/29/2012 9:19:04 PM

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ayanami_rei13 wrote:
do we need infinite psychedelic drugs?
or just one infinite drug
called dmt?

do we need more than one genre of music? or really more than one band to make music?
lets just limit all of everything to what i personally am knowledgeable about and care for.
should make for an immensely interesting reality.

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#14 Posted : 6/29/2012 10:24:52 PM

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Billions!! HAHAHAHAHHAHA crazy huThumbs up
 
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#15 Posted : 6/30/2012 9:11:02 PM
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I don't understand why everyone is all up in arms over this.
We have only mapped something like 5 percent??? of the ocean floor.

I think it's great that consciousness expanding substances are being
made and discovered at astronomical rates.

When they make one RC illegal 100 more pop up to take its place.
It's been like this for years.

Bags of magic dust in strange envelopes from china aren't a new thing,
and they'll only become more exotic as time passes.

I tried to keep up but I keep coming back to DMT, there's nothing
more magical in my opinion, but I am open to new experiences.
Thanks for the link to that article, I haven't read much of the new
literature that is out there. MAPS deserves another donation.Thumbs up






 
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#16 Posted : 7/1/2012 3:25:49 AM

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one temple wrote:


When they make one RC illegal 100 more pop up to take its place.
It's been like this for years.


Wired had an article about weed RC takes 20 minutes to make a new one when the old ones are banned. Bottomline is that legalizing drugs actually cuts down on RC's which cannot be banned, and sometimes can be more dangerous for you.
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#17 Posted : 7/3/2012 4:02:37 AM

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seems like a viscous cycle, let go g-men surrender and give us our freedom!!!!
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