So Ive had this idea in my head quite sometime now. Based on the fact that alcohol is legal and marijuana is illegal.

The similarities between alcohol and marijuana.

They get you high.
The make you feel good. (For some people)
The effects are temporary.
The more you smoke/drink the more incapacitated you become.
Many people partake in both. Separately or together.
Many more...

The differences.

Alcohol is extremely damaging. Marijuana is not.
Alcohol is highly addictive. Marijuana is only mentally addictive. (not completely proven)
You can overdose on alcohol. Not marijuana.
Alcohol is a drink. Marijuana is smoked and/or eaten.
Alcohol blocks most of your inhibitions. Marijuana potentiates them sometimes.
many more...

So what do you think would/could happen if they created a smoke-able form of alcohol that became legally sold. Like a cigarette but its main purpose being to get drunk.

THEN, it would be a no brainer to make marijuana legal. i know it already is and that this is actually retarded in the way to show marijuana's positive nature. But i'm thinking in the way of the majority of ignorance against pot. People dont generally have the same negative thoughts towards alcohol that they do pot.

The arguement would be this. So you can smoke alcohol, which is highly addictive causes tons of damage to your body and has no medical use whatsoever. But you cant smoke pot?

what are your ideas on this?

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Or what if someone made a drinkable form of pot. Like an energy drink minus the crap.

I believe I read something recently about bars where people go to inhale alcohol vapors. Seems kind of pointless to me. I like a good solid drink.

I don't think the issue people have with weed is that you smoke it... I'm not sure where you got that idea. There is a very different "high" to weed than there is for alcohol. I think it's more the way weed makes you think that scares the people in power, not the fact that you smoke it.

Also, it isn't hard at all to make a weed infused drink...

as im typing this im drinking, a 40 ounce Corona. Its hard to replace the sensation of actual liquid alcohol, a vapor just wouldn't be the same. Imagine, you have some boneless buffalo wings, and a beer, the two work, now replace the beer, with beer-vapor its just not the same. But I do agree that "these plants should be legal, and available, more so then alcohol

no no im sorry you missed what I was saying. Im talking about the "ignorant" people who know nothing about marijuana that are helping to keep it illegal. I'd rather not hypothesize that the "powers that be" are keeping it illegal for an agenda. It may be true but its still conspiracy THEORY.



Smoking is a huge vision in people minds. When you say smoking drugs, or smoking pot. A lot of people invision hard drugs. Its been implanted in the idea of why pot is bad... it simply is not bad but people have become comfortable with it being catagorized into the same along with cocaine and heroin. I want to categorize it with alcohol, thats the main idea.

My main point would be that by doing this we are confronted with to smokeable drugs. Alcohol and weed. You'd be amazed but that fact that its smoked lends alot to peoples fears. Smoked drugs are looked at as heroin or cocaine. Thats what a lot of people think when you say "smoking drugs".

What i would hope to achieve would be to lessen the difference between alcohol and marijuana so that they were viewed more similiar. Cause in all reality they are both mind altering drugs. But most people dont view alcohol as a mind altering drug. However it is changing over time, but speaking by majority of people who just dont know enough to have an opinion is where I am going with this. Changing peoples minds about all this is the end result.

And yes i know that you can make a drinkable version of marijuana very easily. But my idea is on changing the idea of what smoking drugs really means.

i'm not trying to replace drinking alcohol. i completely understand. just like no one would switch over to drinkable mary jane. Smoking is part of the experience.

the title is kind of confusing..
smoking alcohol isn't really an option, unless you're a combustion engine

Hm. It sounds like you deal with a level of ignorance towards drugs I've never encountered in anyone. Honestly just about everyone I've talked to on the subject thinks weed should be legal. You really come across people who think of heroin or cocaine when smoked drugs are mentioned? Have these people never heard of cigarettes? I'm quite sure there is a general consensus in society that alcohol is a mind altering drug, and that is why we have laws against driving drunk, shooting a gun drunk, etc.

Anyway, I'm just sorry you're stuck with such stupid and closed off people. Maybe you ought to find yourself a new location?

This im aware.

my main thought is that people arent looking at alcohol and cigarettes as drugs. They are more so nowadays but there needs to be a HUGE link that these are all drugs and that these ones are bad and these ones are good.

Really? You seriously have never heard of anyone that thinks alcohol is fine but marijuana isnt? You havent any knowledge that people, actual citizens, are FOR the war on drugs? You really think that it only government?

None of the people I am AROUND think in the way you are applying to me. I am completely aware however that that isnt the only people that exist. There are people that catogorize marijuana with heroin and I am sorry you arent aware of that.

Sorry but there are quite a few people that dont view cigarettes and alcohol as drugs. Why its illegal has nothing to do with JUST how people view it and definitely doesnt mean that everyone views it that way.

I don't consider people who consume alcohol drug users.

It's solvent abuse, plain and simple.

And yes, I'm guilty

I don't huff it though.

I think there is something "conspiracy-ish" going on with Alcohol, Hemp, hallucinogens etc. Its exactly why Alcohol/pharmaceuticals are legal, but the natural stuff aint, I think its pretty clear. The only way I see that could change that, would be if everyone on Earth experienced a dmt type event at the same time. "sum suggest solar flares, initiating releases of DMT. My statement is anecdotal but, I do think it would have to be a major event of some kind to embrace these plants and what they can do, verses what we've been getting from big brother.

Ok, it's not a level of ignorance I haven't encountered, it's just the few times I have encountered it I was sure it was some ridiculous minority because I find it so rarely. Most people I talk to or hear from either think it should be legal or just don't have an opinion.

I don't think we need to make people realize that weed should be legal. 50% of people here in america think that weed should be legal, with the demographic that's most opposed being (surprise) old people. I think as those people die off and the more weed-friendly generation takes over, the problem will take care of itself.

It's very very hard to change someone's beliefs, especially if they've believed it for 60+ years.

Ok this ^ I agree with. I just think that the idea brings about the question as to what is the real argument that mj should be illegal? Cause there does exist people who think it should stay that way. So if alcohol were in a smoke able form then the only difference between the two would be the negatives that alcohol carries. This is the train of thought in trying to create in this thread.

I would rather we stray from conspiracy type thought and stick to only facts. Also it's not allowed in this community. I used to be a conspiracy theory buff. Now it's so tiring to talk about such things. It's endless debate and makes me angry and sad. It's gets us nowhere.

So if this happened then the question would be "do you can smoke alcohol and get drunk but not smoke weed and get high?" I think I'm being taken too seriously on the idea.

I guess I built too much of a scenario for people to grasp as an argument to why it's outrageous for anyone to think my should be illegal or more so that it should become legal ASAP

What is the difference between the word drunk and high? Alcohol is the only thing that uses the terminology drunk. Everything else gets you high. Smiling. Running. Driving fast cars. Being around family and friends. Pot.

Im going to market this and get rich.


Thanks for the idea.


































too bad its unpossible <3

Honestly I would say the closest thing to alcohol is PCP.. Every time I drink, I just feel like I am on some PCP, and it sucks. But I would say, that if you DID make a smokeable alcohol, that it would be just like PCP. SO I don't think it would be worth it, and I dont think it would really help to promote the legalization of weed.

Ive run into many people, even young hipster types, who say, "I don't do drugs, I just drink." they really do believe there is some real difference, death statistics be damned. Sad to say, but this is the real result of a sort of Orwellian effort to create a mythology around alcohol vs other drugs, and a lot of people do fall for it. It starts when you're young, so it's in your brain wiring and it's up to each individual to discover for themselves- or not- that this myth is false.

Your idea is amusing and interesting- but I think all would happen is that people would see it as a new drug with alcohol like effects, and would easily be able to use this semantic distinction to be able to keep believing the myth.

Incidentally, I once drank a beer that was brewed with MJ instead of hops. Split it with three other people. Forgot to talk for a couple hours.

Pharmacologically, ethanol has actions on the GABA ,acetylcholine, NMDA and serotonin receptor systems.Ive never tried it but its mechanism of action and an observation of its effects make me guess it has hints of the benzos, a sliver of the barbiturates with a sprinkling of the dissociatives.

Quite a combination......but still not that appealing to me.

Thank you guyomech. My thread was really only meant to be interesting and amusing. But I do see the downfall in my metaphorical idea. It's kind of sad that a drug like alcohol is allowed but MJ is not. DMT is not. Mushrooms is not. Uhg

I never got the 8 mm/12 fps film effect from alcohol that I got from pcp. pharmacologically, the closest thing to alcohol is ghb and benzos.

at really high doses of ethanol, NMDA-antagonism kicks in, but that's about the point where one blacks out.