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Is Meshuggah the best metal band of all time? Options
 
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#1 Posted : 6/27/2012 8:06:14 AM

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You Decide! Ok so these guys are quickly becoming my favorite band. Its metal but don't let that discourage you trippers. Its a perfect representation of machinces assembling and dissesembling im ethereal hyperspace but its in sound form. These guys have everything: Polyrhythms, anger (of course), plenty of aya experience (i mean look at that art work), and bass to make any dubstep look like childs play. Meshuggah Rulz, let the math and bass take you away and destroy you
heres some sweet lyrics from the song Pineal Gland optics:
How come I shiver, hurt and bleed
If in dreams I cannot truly feel?
Who would dare say, who would claim
This hallucination isn't real?

Synoptical glitch looking glass
So enticing, real and free of lies
Prodigious, omnifarious
It nourishes, it feeds my starving eyes
Artificial, the catalyst, organic, its progeny
Voracious spectral offspring, so sweet in its hunger
Unbound this new vision, optical re-genesis
Threatening, so complete in beautiful deformity

These authoritive visions order my collective senses
My questioning, doubtful, rigid self to kneel
A Judas syndrome in effect, former self, the deceiver
Its denial, the wretched kiss that kept this in disguise

Cast off the concealing veil, the rational cloak of doubt
Torn off the restraints, the vile shackles
Burned away, the agony, the fear, the grief
A new set of eyes cleansed by a new belief


Oh yeah and are those DMT molecules slipped into the artwork? I cant really tell... either way it's pretty hyperspaced.
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#2 Posted : 6/27/2012 10:08:39 AM

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Is this a new album?? That's sick I had only heard a few songs by them. I liked them but they weren't my fav. I'm a huge fan of fear factory.

I never took much notice to that song wow. Chaosphere is an ok album. I like the song "new millennium cyanide Christ"

Im gonna check out the new album on my way home doo as I get off work. Which will be in 2 minutes! Finally uhg.
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#3 Posted : 6/27/2012 10:28:53 AM

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Nothing compares to the feeling you get while listening to Demiurge from the new album and get to the middle when an unsuspected riff shakes you in the most pleasant way.I was in sort of dream state, I was just about to completely fall asleep but my mind was still aware or awake and at the same time it was dreaming, while listening to demiurge, I can't explain the feeling but...ever since that experience I try to get short naps while listening Meshuggah. Lol

That said there are far to many good bands out there.I always hated creating a top.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/27/2012 12:44:32 PM

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I've always dug Devin Townsend as my fav metal artist! Opeth are up there too for me. May have to look into Meshuggah though as it's a name I've heard popping around a few times!

For those that don't know Devy - great concert in Finland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG126BydKHI

I could definitely launch to the first track he plays here... Smile
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#5 Posted : 6/27/2012 1:23:57 PM

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Is Meshuggah the best metal band of all time?

Of course they are. Why even ask?


Have you heard Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within

You must. Very psychedelic.
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#6 Posted : 6/27/2012 7:48:18 PM

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what is the best anything ever?
tbh i'm not a big fan of messhugah or lamb of god or that style of shout-y metal. I"m more into behemoth, decapitated, necrophagist, etc.
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#7 Posted : 6/27/2012 8:23:07 PM

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Mister_Niles wrote:
Is Meshuggah the best metal band of all time?

Of course they are. Why even ask?


Have you heard Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within

You must. Very psychedelic.

hell yeah dude! I LOVE defects! I can't stop listening to the track Solarization. i've become the nuclear image of eternity i'm the original stuff. all the
universes find their pattern in my being. for i'm the cosmic infinitesmal.
i'm the source. i'm the fountain. exploding in your face. (with a flick of
my wrist a new cosmos begins.) how glorious to be alive. be here with me now
in timeless micro-infinity.

reality now an oceanic flow of particles in everchanging patterns. panta
rei. undulating within the ultimate core of self. which is no-self. inside
this boundless thought wave. all is one and one is god. (truth is one. sui
generis)

everything is coming in waves and from all sides. nuclear. molecular and
cellular layers. modular wave-hierarchies. epi-phenomenon of the
ground-of-being of all other grounds-of-being. in a fractual involution. the
reversal of evolution. becoming is absolute. time is dying a slow death. the
eschaton is near. i'm into an ideational singularity: propelling towards the
neuro-galatic center, the transcendental nexus of self and world. a cosmic
junction where on a physical level: matter and anti-matter merge into each
other. into emptiness and on a psychic level god and self are inextricably
intertwined.
I'm imploding into myself, my god, oh god, I'm home

And BTW ya'll have good taste in metal. Love me some Devy (though I'm more of a fan of Strapping young lad) and i love me some Decapitated Shadowman. I actually just saw Baroness, Decapitated and Meshuggah in one line up this past may, blew me away. Yeah Hfool its a new album, just came out in march. Chaosphere is good but is my least favorite of their stuff. Try Nothing and Obzen, those are my two faves but I am yet to listen to all of KOLOSSSad so i need to get on that. TO METAL!
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#8 Posted : 6/27/2012 8:54:31 PM

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Ya I like obzen the most overall.

Fear Factory
Parkway Drive
Amon Amarth
Deftones
Lamb of God
MushroomHead
Pantera
Trivium

That's my current top. Although I listen to a lot of more chill stuff like tool, Alice n chains, chevelle, sound garden ect.
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#9 Posted : 6/27/2012 9:14:16 PM

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anrchy wrote:
Ya I like obzen the most overall.

Fear Factory
Parkway Drive
Amon Amarth
Deftones
Lamb of God
MushroomHead
Pantera
Trivium

That's my current top. Although I listen to a lot of more chill stuff like tool, Alice n chains, chevelle, sound garden ect.

oh sorry man i called you HFool, you guys have the same avatar or at least he did. I haven't been here in a while and i always associated that avatar with him. Cool man thats a good lineup gotta love Lamb. Best music to listen to when you're pissed off, at least for me. Just throw on ashes and all will be well.
What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed


 
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#10 Posted : 6/27/2012 9:16:37 PM

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anrchy wrote:
Ya I like obzen the most overall.

Fear Factory
Parkway Drive
Amon Amarth
Deftones
Lamb of God
MushroomHead
Pantera
Trivium

That's my current top. Although I listen to a lot of more chill stuff like tool, Alice n chains, chevelle, sound garden ect.

oh sorry man i called you HFool, you guys have the same avatar or at least he did. I haven't been here in a while and i always associated that avatar with him. Cool man thats a good lineup gotta love Lamb. Best music to listen to when you're pissed off, at least for me. Just throw on ashes and all will be well.
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we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed


 
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#11 Posted : 6/27/2012 9:29:05 PM

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What about Alestorm?
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#12 Posted : 6/27/2012 10:12:52 PM

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Moondance wrote:
What about Alestorm?

Pirate metal? eh not for me. I'm more of a prog, math, and death metal fan myself
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#13 Posted : 6/27/2012 10:32:47 PM
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Not to sound all super critical....I'm pretty old fashioned but I just can't handle the sound of people growling and roaring, Old Korn is a heavy as I can get, and for that I have to be in a bad mood or something. Could be all the weird experiences I have had with demonic entities over the years, I suppose I have developed a bit of a phobia of anything that reminds me of dark spirits.

I had a friend that used to like to listen to skinny puppy, sepultura and cannibal corpse while we were on LSD..and it really tended to put a negative spin on my visuals that I really disliked.

The modern death metal sounds a tad too frightening for my taste. I prefer the sound of actual human voices in my music, but that's just my opinion.

And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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#14 Posted : 6/27/2012 11:52:51 PM

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I haven't heard meshuggah for a few years but I always lumped them in the 'interesting' category, rather than the "damn my souls burning in a damn good way right now" category.

There's a band called 'textures' that's kind of mathy but I thought had a little more soul.

Agreeing with elbowcups on the devy thing Pleased
 
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Meshugga is awesome, I need to check out their new stuff I've strayed from the metal path for about a year now but still listen to it now and then.

I'll have to agree with shadowman on Decapitated, they are great too bad about the drummer though. More of my favorites are, Iniquity, Suicide Silence, The Faceless, Aborted, All Shall Perish, and Black Dahlia Murder
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#16 Posted : 6/28/2012 4:37:28 AM

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I love Meshuggah, started listening to them a while ago. I just love the fucked up timing they have on all their songs. Made a huge impression on me.
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LONG time Meshuggah fan Very happy They are one of my favorite metal bands, definitely. They've created this whole "djent" trend that a lot of new metal bands are following. Those guys are geniuses, whether you appreciate the vocals or not, the music they make is unbelievable sometimes. Jens' scream can get a bit harsh at times, as could be said about any growled/screamed/shouted/squealed vocals.

For someone like me, who has always liked the hard rock distorted guitars and wicked pounding drum beats, it was still a gradual acceptance and transition into listening to all the music with the more harsh vocals. It just started with, "Hey man, you have to hear these guys, the guitarist/drummer/bassist is sick" and I would just ignore the vocals for the most part and listen to the part I wanted to pay attention to Very happy Then over time, when you get into the riffs and the grooves, you start catching some of the lyrics, and so on...

Now I love those growls and screams. Once you start calling yourself a metalhead, start training your voice to do those growls and stuff, you really do appreciate how hard it is Smile It's a lot easier to injure your vocal chords from screaming, especially because most people try to do it as loud as they possibly can. Anyhow, I know some people just can't tolerate it and it's not for them. I'm a fan of music of almost all types. The ones I don't like I still appreciate on some level. I've always been pretty diverse in that sense. And that has always been the music I'm most attracted to. Meshuggah is boss, let me tell you Very happy But these days I only really listen to it for the guitars, try to learn as much as I can from emulating them, because they're masters Very happy

So I have a couple bands that some people might enjoy. For those Meshuggah fans, if you haven't heard Vildhjarta, please check out the video below Very happy When I first heard them, I dubbed them "Meshuggah 2.0" but as funny (and accurate) a label as that may be, the guitarists do have a distinct style of their own, which is also absolutely amazing. The song Eternal Golden Monk, any guitarists out there, check it out. He does some insane inharmonic stuff which I still can't quite figure out.


Now, everyone else, you must listen to this song Smile It's an instrumental acoustic song by a metal band called The Contortionist. They have quickly become my favorite metal band and I'm eagerly anticipating their new album. There are much more clean vocals and less harsh growls/screams (for those who prefer that). I do love his clean vocals. They're what I would call "Experimental-Technical-Progressive-Deathcore" Very happy Very happy Why do we feel the need to attach nice little neat labels to everything? Very happy

Their lyrics are not what you would expect from a metal band. If you're not into any of this music, but you love sci-fi, check these lyrics out Pleased
The Contortionist wrote:

1. Primal Directive

Bridge to analyst; access the secondary plasmic dataholds.
Now viewing all current planetary bodies.
Move to constrain your results to newest sentient life.
Scan the surface. Bring up vitals.

Local life thrived much quicker than anticipated.
We are pleased.

Focus shifted.
Save the organism through implied relocation.
Inferior understanding limits options and adaptation will be necessary for the specimen to survive.

As we map out this universe, all that can be seen is an ocean of emptiness.
This is primal directive.

Now we execute standard protocol.
As these cycles are nearing completion, initiate solar cleansing.
Move on, time never waited on its occupants.
Live on, by any means and every technology.

You have been defined.


2. Flourish

The rebirth of intelligent life will restore this planet's cosmic status.
As the surface draws into focus, every variance and nuance realized.

The simple birth.

Time is moving forward.
Elapse. Evolve. Expand. Adapt.
Adaptation runs parallel with surviving global conflict.

Sustained permanence proves imperfect existence, integrated.
Balance is reached between the parent star.

Endless motion.
Now the experience is long gone.

We won't forget it's entrancing stare, as long as we recall it's grip.

Stellar forces are keeping us alive.


3. Expire

The system is now free.
Witness our obsolescence, end sparks of life.
A new species can never fathom how quickly it will be extinct.

The system is now free from error.
The system revokes our viral form.
Silence becomes primary language.
Internal wave, undulate us home.

This system is now free from error.

Removed from the earth like a scourge with a delicate and yet powerful hand.

Idle boundaries allow admission to pull this world apart from the inside.

Equilibrium has been disturbed and the surface must collapse.
Compacted star, the only destination.
Unavoidable paradigm.

The radiant sun engraves its name.
Unavoidable paradigm.


4. Contact

[First Contact]

[Observer:]
"For solutions, look to the sky.
Coincide with constellations.
I stand correct. Time stands exact.
Your time of departure has arrived."

[Organism:] "Initiate this birth. Introvert this dimension."

[The Exchange]

[Observer:] "Conception, use this apparatus."

[Organism:] "Creator, you are all knowing, I beg you, show me your vision."

[Observer:] "My creation, stare into space. Decipher your reality."

[Last Contact]

[Observer:]
"For solutions, look to the sky.
Coincide with constellations.
Consummation has begun and I am your guide.
Together we unlock the secrets of the stars."

[Organism:] "Your signal is fading."

[Observer:] "You are..."

[End Transmission]

You are...


5. Advent

Now the inaugural exchange is done, we cannot see past the solar shroud.

Escape.

Calculating all viable routes.
This terrestrial rock will be consumed.
Deafening static is haunting me, the blackness is beckoning.
Countless samples of our world will be jettisoned into every direction that we have known of.

Our satellites have painted the sky with their ionic glass brushes.
The cryotubes will store our youth.

Desperation has set in and all we can do is run.

Feeling so alone, we set out to find other life.
The transport will be outfitted for a journey spanning future generations


6. Vessel

We have fabricated this ship to continue our legacy.
At the entrance the inscription reads: "We must not end".
We will not end.

The continuation of our species is riding on this one mission to another space.

Descendants on this planetary trip will never forget.

Storing the history books aboard this ship,
we ensure our memory. The memory.

They will feed on the images we create,
and will survive by our deeds.

As we wait for the architects to build our savior,
preparations have begun and time is short.

The vessel is now complete.
It holds all the hopes and dreams of those who wish for more.
What will we see when we get there?
Can we tell the two worlds apart?


7. Oscillator

A warning to conducting officers of the machine. You are most exposed to the
diatomic focused-gravity. Stray cosmic rays are threatening our generational
biosphere. Celestial missiles envelop nearby space climate zones, in the void.
Prolonged exposure to trace amounts of dark matter produces an exponential
decomposition.


8. Axiom

[Instrumental]


9. Exoplanet I: Egress

We are among the stars
Who are the operators of this boundless array?
The expedition takes us to our new home...

Systems re-allign

Speculation based on calculated reason leads me to believe we are not alone
Seeded by a greater race, we only hope to find the answers now embedded into the fabric of our minds
Are we moving forward?
Guided by the maps of progress

Imperfect perfections allow existence


10. Exoplanet II: Void

We long to feel our bodies outside centrifugal conditions.
An orderly solar system will outlast this guiding center system.

As we leave our galaxy, every certainty abandoned.
The referential lawns of man are lost, nothing is relative.

Cold and empty space surrounds and swells.

Time is moving at invariable speeds and our instruments are useless.

Oscillating obsession, beautiful apparatus.
These cycles put my mind at ease.

Bodies cannot sustain what this was built for.
The body cannot sustain what this was built for.
We worship oscillation, no other way.


11. Exoplanet III: Light

The microcosm is in exhibition.
terrestrial shaped into a magnificent realm.

Our colonial settlements are threatened by the sky.
The circling disk of ice watches quietly from a distance.
Refracting nebulaic dust has pierced the outer shell.

A blooming world is being ripped apart.
Planetary wide scorching from the focused light.

This extra solar vessel, orbiting the cluster.
Ejects the sample pods of the Eden passengers.
As for us, we must migrate.
This exoplanet has failed.
 
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Not to sound all super critical....I'm pretty old fashioned but I just can't handle the sound of people growling and roaring, Old Korn is a heavy as I can get, and for that I have to be in a bad mood or something. Could be all the weird experiences I have had with demonic entities over the years, I suppose I have developed a bit of a phobia of anything that reminds me of dark spirits.

I had a friend that used to like to listen to skinny puppy, sepultura and cannibal corpse while we were on LSD..and it really tended to put a negative spin on my visuals that I really disliked.

The modern death metal sounds a tad too frightening for my taste. I prefer the sound of actual human voices in my music, but that's just my opinion.



I gotta agree with you Eliyahu... Cookie monster metal has never been my cup of tea...

More power to whoever digs it though.. Different strokes for different folks.. Gotta love diversity..
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No, The Faceless is.

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i would vote vildhjarta before that.
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