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#21 Posted : 6/25/2012 4:47:21 PM

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I am not sure that I think pharma is weaker or less visual... For me it is very strong and very visual. But then, I am usually working with feebase dmt and raw harmala so this could account for why t is still a full experience.
However my one true pharma trip was pretty visual but not a lot of visions - what many people report. I used 250mg of freebase mixed harmine/harmaline, but I could have stood 300. But I also purged maybe 10 minutes tops after ingesting the DMT, redosing with another 30 mg dmt. But even purging 10 minutes after the Spice I got enough for light visuals and the bodybuzz. So I could probably take 2.5 grams of mimosa and feel it actually!

But yeah I like pharma sometimes- the themes are different and it looks more like vaped dmt. I get visions on it as well - a few weeks ago I had an extremely visionary pharma trip with some of the most full and complex visions I've had, excepting CWE jurema/harmala. I went through an alternative lifetime in which I had a brother (I am an only child). It was really beautiful and somehow quite heartwarming. The whole lifetime was lived out in 5 minutes, amazing. I really felt love for this non-existent brother.!
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jamie
#22 Posted : 6/25/2012 8:39:32 PM

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It is interesting about the traditional views on the topic of doses, admixture etc..

I was reading a paper written by sachahambi at the aya forums last night, where she mentioned that among the Napo Runa who she lived with there was hints that heavy admixture doses were for beginners, and that the more powerful or skilled curranderos did not need much-that it was a sign of a "weak" currandero or something that needs a lot of admixture to be able to see. This goes against what I am sure many people in the west assume-that curranderos drink super doses etc..it seems this is not the case, because they dont need them. The extensive diets and experience with the brew teaches them or something how to make the most of the medicine. They seem to concider a shaman who can see the spirits with only the vine to be quite skilled. I prefer admixtue in my brews though to none at all, reguardless of the fact that I have visions without admix.

Well..I dont always agree necessarily with traditional takes on these things..but I can also understand it. I know that the more I drink the more I am able to learn to "see" that place..even with little admixture feelings and no open eye visulas at all, I can go lay down and close my eyes and enter the admixture visions..it is as if my brain has been trained to just tune into that channel..

I find though, that often the traditionalist sum up the admix to just visuals..when for me it is so much more than that. The DMT aspect for me is very psychological, energetic and emotional as well as visual..so I dont always get what people are going on about when they talk about just a lightshow..The high dose DMT state is not always my goal anyway and does not necessarily mean a "deeper" experience.

This whole topic is so complex I could go on and on.
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