So it's been almost 4 months been 5 extractions all good ones and I've tryed then sandwich method I've tryed cutting bottem of bottle putting aluminum under then the newestone witch works the best is a glass test tube with a top and a straw to suck in vaper but that's only got me too see stuff move like shrooms no nothing close too breaking threw I will send you guys pics of the device I would love some help and will reply back soon as possible any kind of help would be good and yes I keeep flame away from device and use more then50 mg each time still only mild visuals

Sorry about the spelling I'm using a phone it's very hard and a sorry I can not upload the pics of the device

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...e_best_smoking_method.3F

Maybe this helps. Good luck, let us know how it goes!

I've read the whole thing before but thanks for the just wondering what other ppl use as there device and I cannot make the machine soon I can't even go down that road

I believe most often used devices were described there. Many people(me included) use vaporgenie or glass vaporgenie with good results

Well I figured that the test tube device would work the same is dose work but only produce s minor effects but alot better then the sandwitch method I've seen great visuals off it but things just basicly move that's about all

you did not figured it right I guess otherwise you would be flying in the wonderland after properly vaping 50mg of spice. I need up to 10mg to get minor effects as you describe so you are definitely doing something wrong.

Sandwich method for me... in a bowl or bong. The last 15 or so times I've done it though I've been doing "half sandwiches"... I'll put some mary jane on the bottom and some DMT on top... hover the lighter an inch or so just above the Deem and wait (the whole time of course sucking in through the bowl or bong) you have to like let the flame touch and then release and then touch and then release.. it's sorta weird and hard to explain and you also have to move the lighter clockwise or counterclockwise slowly around the bowl.... DO NOT BURN THE DMT tho.. that smoke is harsh and more than likely will leave you with a weird fucked up kinda feeling but nothing like what you are looking for, to burn the DMT is a waste and it also can burn your lips when you burn dmt. It is BEYOND uncomfortable when you burn dmt... but anyways after a while you can actually hear the dmt sorta "bubbling" or vaporize... inhale all that and hold it till you can't hold it anymore and then go in for the kill cause the DMT is already burning/melting into the mj (and you are probably already going to be feeling some effects... like visions of your bowl melting into your hand and stuff like that.. the clock is ticking so holding the first hit as long as possible isn't quite as important as holding the clearance hit as long as possible but if you can do both as long as possible then you are definitely going to be blasted)... so the second hit you want to super rip like it's just mj in there... this hit will be beyond massive with a mixture of the heavenly herb and the Spirit Molecule... that hit will be your rocket ship into whatever dimension you are headed... good luck. Or if you got iron lungs you can vape the deem like I said and then do the massive clearance hit all in one... that is a GUARANTEED method to get to oblivion.

1:1 CHANGA or ENHANCED LEAF

I'm constructing a machine and hope it gets me to hyperspace. I've used the heat rocket and let me tell you it gets you a buzz, but doesn't blast you off, I'm losing faith fast in the tin foil 2-liter bottle method.

Thanks evey one INS go back to the sandwich Metis tommaro night after a few beers and let you know how it gose down I've got the burning lip taste before it dose suck I guess mine my problem with that method was I dissent think I was getting hits soo I put flame too it plus I added too much herb too the bong I'll give it a try and let you guys know for sure how it gose

Yeah you can't go wrong with the changa...

@hyperspace420

Good luck my friend... you'll get it. I used to think I wasn't getting any hits when I tried this method but believe me you are.. just vaporized hits at the beginning... the trick is to get the DMT to start vaping and then melting into the mj... once the DMT starts melting into the mj you can go for the kill because the Deem is already melting into the mj. This hit is the one my friend... hold that till you can't my friend and it's OVER.

I've had trips where I've held the clearance hit to the point where I forgot I was even holding a hit. I couldn't remember exhaling, I couldn't remember breathing, hell I couldn't even remember that I was smoking DMT... the DMT took me completely away while holding that last hit and that feeling is one of the most amazing and most frightening feelings ever.

Thanks man you couldn't have been more clear about that method ,I'll give it another try and I should let you know by tommaro night I'm excited about this won alot

No doubt brethren... can't wait for your report.

Happy and Safe Travels my fellow psychonaut, and I hope nothing but positive waves towards your next journey and more!

It might bee a but longer but not longer then a week my base jar ran out of extractions soo I gotta wait till I can do another one I thought it still had some in it but it's.all tuckered out but i ll put my report on hear as soon as possable

Put LESS in this time. If you manage to do it correctly but you load 50mg, its prolly not gonna be good.

Start with 20mg or even 15mg. If you end up getting your normal experience using only 15mg, then you are doing it right finally. Then I suggest only going up by 5mg or 10mg increments.

Well then another question I have at what dose properly smoked would you get effects past just an intense rush too the point where just thing s move pretty much exactly like that of magic mushrooms that's as far as I've got and it prolly lasted 10 mins and I've had that's same kind of trip over ten times if I don't get that effect it's perrty much just a strong rush nothing more I've never seen any patterns or crazy colers yet but I've felt like I was close too that just wondering what dose would get too that basic level if properly smoked thanks for the help I'm sure this is a tricky one

Are you closing your eyes?

I've tryed that slot on same level it's crazy, but a real break threw shouldn't matter when I close my eyes on shrooms I get same effects so still its not all that Intense

For me personally 40 mg to 50 mg is breakthrough territoy always... 20 mgs is sub-breakthrough (but this is tricky because I have had breakthroughs with this dose) with extreme fractal patterns and so forth.. but 40 mgs and up and you should be gettin teleported to distant galaxies, being thrown through wormholes with intergalactic billboards swirling around the wormhole while you simultaneously twirl through this wormhole, only to be greeted at the end of the wormhole by neon pulsating medusas that have octopus tentacles for hair while in the background some trillion eyed super being is fragmenting, shattering and reforming.. folding in and out on itself while changing it's dimensional structure to 4d 5d 6d 7d and "neverbeforeseen" d along with colors and patterns you've never seen before... etc... lol ... i'm not even going to start on the body feel though... lol