Ive never done DMT before and would very much like to. However most extraction methods seem to me to require a lot of money and know-how about chemistry and Acid/Bases. I was wondering what would happen if you were to vaporize straight up Phalaris Grass (and species), because that is the DMT containing plant easily available in my location. I realize Phalaris Grasses contain Gramine, which can cause harm to you, and I certainly do not want that. I do know Gramine vaporizes at, I believe, 138C, and I believe other alkaloids vaporize at a lower temperature.

So my main question, what would happen if I vaporize Phalaris? Would it be worth it? What about other DMT containing plants? What temperature does the good stuff vaporize at?

A side question, that's probably been asked many times, what would happen if you were to smoke not Gramine containing DMT plants like Mimosa Hostillis Root Bark (though I hear that's incredibly difficult to light)?

This very question has been answered by the fine folks over at Ask Erowid

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=181

A lot of money?
mhrb $32 (half pound/200g +)
lye $4
naphtha $7
Dh20 $1
gallon milk jug (#2 plastic)

In a nutshell (read in the STB thread the post by gir then my tread for the other dtails needed)

1500ml into milk jug.
Slowly pour 100g Lye.
Wait 10Min
Add 100g mhrb to mix.
rotate end over ene real slow until mixed well.
wait 3 hours
put face mask on and go into well vent area.
add 75ml naphtha to mi
rotate end over end at a rate of 1 rotation ever 2 seconds for 30 rotations
let layers separatw and mix again. And let separatw.
Extract clear layer only into its own dish
do 4 more puls
put all the collection jars in the freezer
wait until the morning
dump naphtha and scrap

you would struggle to smoke 5 grams of grass in 45 seconds to feel the effects of dmt but there is a chance u could get the effects if combined with a maoi like syrian rue seeds. look into maoi im sure u could find a source for it seems most still aren't illegal

i would not encourage people to smoke grass clippings. Learn to extract.

Hi all!
I found finally info regarding the gramine boiling point, stated to be 293.9 °C at 760 mmHg
at https://www.lookchem.com/Gramine/
could anyone check if this info seems right?
Seems to be high enough to avoid risks regarding phalaris, if vaporized using some vapo with good temperature control, provided that temp will not exceed, let me say, 200 °C.
I'm definitely not an expert, and i'm posting this primarily to receive eventually a feedback from any more experienced guy reading it. I red also in this topic that probably is necessary to use 5 grams of dried phalaris to obtain any effect. Maybe that is possible to use a vapo baloon to try to speed up the process?
I never tried this before, my intention is to try and submit further results here
thanks to anybody would help!
Shrek

Many moons ago I purchased a Phalaris "potent clone".
At the time, it was said (Entheogen Review?) that a wheatgrass juicer worked fine in getting a useable "extract".

So, grew it in the garden, used the juicer, and it did indeed give me a significant and real 5-meo-DMT effect. However, after one more viable harvest, that never worked again.

My theory is that it mixed with regular grass outdoors, maybe was not competitive? I never tried growing it in a pot to keep it separate. That would have been the next experiment.
I have read that potency fluctuates as well.
5-meo became easily available around this time and I never saw the use for Phalaris after that.

Disclaimer that my knowledge of potent Phalaris is pretty dated applies.
However, the wheatgrass juicer working with a potent clone a couple times was definite and experienced by others.