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astralspice
#1 Posted : 6/23/2012 4:06:48 PM

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So, Dmt has been the catylist for me in learning to work with the energys that surround us to infinity. It did't take too long for me to realize that there is NO SUCH THING AS BAD ENERGY and that it's just one's perception that makes it seem bad. On the other hand there is an abundance of NEGATIVE energy out there, Im not calling it bad, but just negative and im sure you all know what im talking about. About 30% of the times that I blast off, this negative energy is dealt to me followed by darkness and that almost annoying droning carrier wave (not the same carrier as with a positive experience). I don't hate it and it's easy to deal with (so far) but it is hard to change it back over to the more positive side once it's been dealt.

So what do you all do when you are dealt this negitive energy and how to you cope with it?
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#2 Posted : 6/23/2012 4:13:35 PM

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I know what you mean with this kinda negative energy, it is kinda disconcerting.

Ive had a years break from dmt but i will be returning to hyperspace in the near future and i will let you know if a good long break returns the experience into a more positive one again.
 
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#3 Posted : 6/23/2012 4:26:36 PM

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Yea that may help. It usually takes me about 3 month to prepare for a journey so I wouldn't think that it's because im taking advantage of it. Also It dosn't scare me off when I have one of these experiences, and I usually try again 15 minutes after and have a wonderful time.
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#4 Posted : 6/23/2012 10:56:00 PM

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I've gotten to the point where negativity in a trip is a non factor to me. It used to bother but now after many journeys (~500-700 maybe) I've learnt to just go with the flow. The one thing you can't prepare for is the way DMT literally takes you away... to me that is the scariest but my most favorite part of the trip... the moment where everything just slows down and starts fragmenting, splintering the very moment you are in... Next moment you close your eyes and WHOOOOOMMMMM warp speed blast off to a whole new dimension. Those moments used to frighten me every time but for some reason now I've grown to love and appreciate that extreme moment... once I get past that moment in every trip then I know I'm gonna be alright afterwards... so whatever is thrown at me after being teleported is nothing compared to the actual blast into the Unknown Realms.

During this blast and teleportation I even have some extreme visuals, so extreme I could never do them justice with the English language so I'll just let the imagination handle that... but let me just say I "KNOW" for a fact that there is something beyond just the physical plane we reside in... There are invisible entities floating all around us that we just can't sense or "see" due to not having the right "tools" to see... I believe DMT can be one of these tools. This is just personal opinion though but DMT opens you to a new view and feel... an unexplainable feel like you know a universal secret or whatever. It's truly amazing.... DMT has an intelligence about it... it's not just "tripping balls" there is a sort of control or a weird feeling of being "observed" while you are in hyperspace...it's not just entities showing you things, you are also being shown to these beings and they fully can see you and feel your energy while in hyperspace. This disturbed me slightly for a little bit but it didn't disturb me enough to STOP exploring. I had to continue my pilgrimage.... and it's truly some awe-inspiring things to be witnessed still...

Negative energy would never stop me from exploring but a reoccurrence of this would up my caution bar to the point where if I needed to take a break I would. I've experienced negative energy in a few trips but those trips seemed to instill a feeling of stronger appreciation for life.... the negative energy was more so me, the ego, still trying to voice itself and make sense of a situation where normal things was no longer of existence. A panic mode would somewhat take over for a short time because this "ego" would question whether or not one would be normal again... I've since learned to go with the flow and 9/10 my trip is going to be a full on positive experience. I'm not saying I don't experience bad trips anymore, I do, but at the same time these bad trips don't seem to bother me like they use to...

With time and experience interpretation of what is bad or not during a trip will become less and less clear... you'll learn to accept whatever experience comes your way cause DMT is sooooo random.. You just can't prepare fully for whatever is to come....
1% of reality is within our plane of existence. What we feel... what we see... what we hear... what we "think" we know... The other 99% percent of reality can only be shown to us through DMT. This 99% lies within the "Realm of the Unknowns". We can only experience FULL reality when we leave this vessel, our bodies. DMT gives us a taste of this full reality... the universal knowledge is given to us by the beings who call "hyperspace" their home. When in hyperspace there is no "self" but instead this self is replaced with pure and raw energy. ENERGY CAN NOT BE DESTROYED, ONLY TRANSFERRED OR TRANSFORMED! So when you have that "ego-death" during a breakthrough trip, don't fret, you are not being destroyed but yet..... YOU ARE BEING TRANSFORMED.


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#5 Posted : 6/23/2012 11:14:01 PM
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Nice post, I like your approach!Thumbs up
 
Al Dimentiz
#6 Posted : 6/24/2012 12:37:02 AM

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astralspice wrote:
So what do you all do when you are dealt this negitive energy and how to you cope with it?


I have a question for you guys....

What exactly are you referring to when you talk about negative energy?

See, I'm taking a break from spice because the last few times when I come back from a breakthrough or when I'm on the middle of it something very strange happens;

Fist, the open and close eye visuals stop completely

Second, the vibrations stop

And Finally, when I open my eyes everything seems dark, everything looks brownish, and I got an intense feeling of dread.

I feel like something went very wrong and that I'm actually really dying!!! And I'm not talking about an ego death, I had those before and this one is different.

Is this the negative energy that you are talking about? Because it feels very physical to me.
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#7 Posted : 6/24/2012 1:00:37 AM

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I don't like to smoke spice often because the vibration is too much for me sometimes. But the best way I deal with negative energies is constantly reminding myself that this too shall pass. I think the negative energies teach us to overcome negative outlook on anything. If you can look past a negative entity on spice then you can look through the negativity that life can bring sometimes.
"I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected
enough to step aside and weep like a widow
to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human" -Tool
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#8 Posted : 6/24/2012 1:06:46 AM

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Oh, there's a carrier wave? How wonderfully simple. Just groove down with it and pitch it up to a pleasant tone. Yeah, it's annoying... get in it and pitch it up with all you've got. The way should be relatively apparent, depending on the presentation of your experience.
 
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#9 Posted : 6/24/2012 2:28:44 AM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
Oh, there's a carrier wave? How wonderfully simple. Just groove down with it and pitch it up to a pleasant tone. Yeah, it's annoying... get in it and pitch it up with all you've got. The way should be relatively apparent, depending on the presentation of your experience.


I don't mind the carrier wave. In fact I like it, I also like the vibrations the stronger the better.

What I don't like is when without any warning everything STOPS and the whole experience takes a left turn and you're stuck in it for a while.

I guess Spice will always be unpredictable and that's the beauty of it.
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#10 Posted : 6/24/2012 4:13:03 AM

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Al Dimentiz wrote:
astralspice wrote:
So what do you all do when you are dealt this negitive energy and how to you cope with it?


I have a question for you guys....

What exactly are you referring to when you talk about negative energy?

See, I'm taking a break from spice because the last few times when I come back from a breakthrough or when I'm on the middle of it something very strange happens;

Fist, the open and close eye visuals stop completely

Second, the vibrations stop

And Finally, when I open my eyes everything seems dark, everything looks brownish, and I got an intense feeling of dread.

I feel like something went very wrong and that I'm actually really dying!!! And I'm not talking about an ego death, I had those before and this one is different.

Is this the negative energy that you are talking about? Because it feels very physical to me.


The "bad" trips early in my hyperspacing career involved a lot of moments with physical episodes except with mine it messed with my breathing or the concept of "breathing". There were times during these trips where I was physically breathing in and out, seen my chest go up and down as if taking deep breaths, but not feel at all like I was "breathing"... it was not like a suffocation but more of a drowning sensation... this used to startle me at first but it didn't last long though.. maybe 10-15 seconds and I would get this sensation 2-3 times during a bad trip. This would happen coming out of the teleportation stage or going into the open eyed visual stage (after the closed eyed journey). See usually for me I'll start with closed eyed visuals and sometimes they'll get too intense to the point where I'll have to open my eyes to try and escape those visuals not knowing it doesn't matter if your eyes are open or closed when you are having a full and thorough breakthrough (That was then, now I've learnt to accept whatever comes my way but it's not that easy either though and I'm not trying to make it sound like it's something "easy".. my difficult trips are pretty difficult but I've learnt to accept those just as much as a positive glowing experience because it all comes with the territory... as much as one enjoys life you must accept death to TRULY enjoy and get the most out of life).

The moment where I open my eyes is usually when I'd have those "breathing" episodes... during this time, moments in time would literally glitch into the thousandth of the thousandth of a second... trails everywhere... molecules and atoms shooting through thin air... I'm being awed to death for that 20-30 seconds. That little voice inside is pleading for a break from all this sensory overload but DMT needs your full and undivided attention, every single cell that encompasses your being is in tune with hyperspace. This moment you have no control and this moment could be dreadful... this moment you don't know if you are going to get back to your body... the term "body" does not apply... that is VERY scary but these moments I've learnt to accept with DMT. You have to take the good with the "bad" and vice versa.. with episodes like yours where the visuals dissipate early and you go into a feeling of dread then yes I would take a break from it.

If DMT is denying you there is a reason and maybe something in your realm of day to day living needs change or growth before exploring again. There's no way to really tell... but yes maybe time will tell. Take a break and see if that "urge" comes... not just a want but an actual full URGE comes and you get that cold feeling of nervousness and anticipation and that DMT touch and feel slightly rushes through your body... try and explore then and see what happens. If you have another episode then a long break may be in order... you just never know with DMT. I've taken a month or two long breaks... right now I'm on almost a month long break... we all need this time of integration. There is nothing wrong with giving yourself time... that respect for DMT will come back around 10 fold and you will be rewarded for your respect for the Spirit Molecule because DMT is to be respected. Not saying you have disrespected DMT... not at all, I've even gone overboard with the usage sometimes but I know when to back off too... I have a total and utmost respect for DMT always and that respect goes a long way not just here but on planes and dimensions beyond...
1% of reality is within our plane of existence. What we feel... what we see... what we hear... what we "think" we know... The other 99% percent of reality can only be shown to us through DMT. This 99% lies within the "Realm of the Unknowns". We can only experience FULL reality when we leave this vessel, our bodies. DMT gives us a taste of this full reality... the universal knowledge is given to us by the beings who call "hyperspace" their home. When in hyperspace there is no "self" but instead this self is replaced with pure and raw energy. ENERGY CAN NOT BE DESTROYED, ONLY TRANSFERRED OR TRANSFORMED! So when you have that "ego-death" during a breakthrough trip, don't fret, you are not being destroyed but yet..... YOU ARE BEING TRANSFORMED.


I LOVE YOU, RESPECT YOU AND I THANK YOU... Dimethyltryptamine ... for showing me the 99% of reality that I would never have experienced in everyday life.

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