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Chronicmic
#1 Posted : 6/19/2012 7:05:28 AM

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At least 3 times a week. Couple month break overall in between different batches. Anyways, wondering if anyone has an idea to what I may have done to myself neurologically. Have been going through a lot of psychological problems.. Repeatedly noted much cleaner thought process with assistance of various psychoactive chemicals. If anyone could help me out. Im 3 months clean after a 4 year opiate addiction and having a hard time separating "normal" bumps, from my bumps.

Other than Omega 3s and 5-HTP anyone have any recommendations?

Thank you in advance. Peace.
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#2 Posted : 6/19/2012 10:41:26 AM

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#3 Posted : 6/19/2012 11:01:03 AM

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"normal" bumps from "your" bumps? What do you mean by this?
http://www.gizmag.com/study-effects-ecstasy/10995/ Here's an article about a study.

Non-human primates have been shown to have serotonergic excitotoxicity (damage in the serotonin system derived from excessive action, "it "burns out" those systems that it works through. I also think it has something to do with the fact that serotonin is somewhat toxic in a large volume. I'm pretty sure it resolves, supposing it's not too far-gone.

Consider calling all of that your "lifetime allotted MDMA", and refraining from ever taking it again. If not, please wait many moons to go back in and don't take it that often..
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#4 Posted : 6/19/2012 11:38:28 AM

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I read a medical report once on a guy who took mdma for ten years and there was no noticeable damage to the brain tissue.

They did not test chemical changes though or anything into receptors.

They said if it was Crystal Meth, he would have big holes in his brain.
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#5 Posted : 6/19/2012 11:47:09 AM

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i think 10 years of meth would put you in a big hole in the ground.
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#6 Posted : 6/19/2012 2:03:26 PM

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I took MDMA once a month for a year or so and I've noticed some problems.

I've developed anxiety, but I think I may have already had it, but it definitely got worse. Also I have developed a tolerance to MDMA and can't get the love anymore.

MDMA is now something I will save for the rarest of occasions maybe 1-2 a year at a festival or big event.
 
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#7 Posted : 6/19/2012 2:19:17 PM

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Im not sure what you have done t yourself, but the fact is, you are as you are, so you have to deal the best way you can with the given conditions.

You could go to a doctor to have your brain actually scanned and all, if you feel that is a good idea and if the problems are really serious. But appart from that, I think the best is if you try to work on your issues from multiple angles. For example, exercise and good food, trying to work on a productive work/hobbie you enjoy, trying to have decent social interaction and learn from it. Regardless what is your issue, if you put extra effort/time on this, it's bound to pay off. Appart from that I also think ayahuasca may be something to look into, considering its known to increase serotonin neuroreceptors so it might undo some of the potential damage?

 
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#8 Posted : 6/19/2012 3:28:02 PM

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Chronicmic wrote:

Other than Omega 3s and 5-HTP anyone have any recommendations?


Eat well. Exercise. Socialize. Rest.

Possibly stay away from drugs for some time..

Time will do the rest.

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#9 Posted : 6/19/2012 4:30:04 PM
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I read an article (BBC, maybe?) about a guy who had a similar situation - longterm, heavy ecstasy use. He was experiencing severe memory problems that were alleviated when he gave up cannabis.

Other than that, what everyone else has said:
-stay clean and sober
-exercise
-eat a healthy, balanced, plant-based diet

Good luck!
 
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#10 Posted : 6/19/2012 6:04:39 PM

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I fell into 2 years of opiate abuse after a year or so of heavy MDMA use. Seems to be a path alot of burnt out ravers fall into.

Exercise, vitamins, (especially 5-htp and Gingko Biloba, also L-Tyrosine[dopamine precursor] seemed to help me recover from the PAWS [Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome] of opiate abuse) also I found getting a regular sexual partner and exploring that avenue to be a nice replacement to all night raves. MDMA is a psychostimulant and a weaker stimulant may make you feel better. I recommend green tea.
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#11 Posted : 6/19/2012 8:56:41 PM

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i would look into mucuna pruriens to help give your body the materials to bring your endogenous dopamine levels back to normal. i personally use beyond a century's extract as well as raw mucuna seeds. parkinson's runs in my family, i take it as preventative maintenance. it conatins large amounts of L-dopa, a direct precursor to dopamine requiring only one simple step to become dopamine, as well as other neuroprotective substances that also aid in the production of dopamine.


http://www.beyond-a-cent...Dopa-75-Grams_p_514.html



focus on eating lots of nutrient dense whole foods, get plenty of rest, and exercise. take a break from any chemicals, give your body time to recover from the abuse. Go heavy on fish oil, the magic happens once you take over a gram of EPA/DHA daily, which is 6+ grams of the usual 200mg epa/dha fish oil pills.
 
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#12 Posted : 6/19/2012 9:33:15 PM
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#13 Posted : 6/19/2012 10:02:13 PM

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endlessness wrote:


Appart from that I also think ayahuasca may be something to look into, considering its known to increase serotonin neuroreceptors so it might undo some of the potential damage?




endlessness, do you know if Smoking has similar effects?



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Yeah i suffer from anxiety but cope alright.

I do not take MD any more, never really,
i cannot stand the Come Down, my thoughts race out of control and i cannot gain control and start getting negative thoughts and betting myself up?

I do not know if it is underlying problems?
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#14 Posted : 6/20/2012 1:02:32 AM

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Chronicmic wrote:
At least 3 times a week. Couple month break overall in between different batches. Anyways, wondering if anyone has an idea to what I may have done to myself neurologically. Have been going through a lot of psychological problems.. Repeatedly noted much cleaner thought process with assistance of various psychoactive chemicals. If anyone could help me out. Im 3 months clean after a 4 year opiate addiction and having a hard time separating "normal" bumps, from my bumps.

Other than Omega 3s and 5-HTP anyone have any recommendations?

Thank you in advance. Peace.


If youve tried omega 3s and 5htp, do you think its helped at all? Im curious to what mg you were taking and how often...
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#15 Posted : 6/20/2012 1:42:32 AM

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ayahuasca does nothing to fix axonal and dendritic damage.

along with omega-3, try phosphatidylserine
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Chronicmic
#16 Posted : 6/20/2012 7:45:37 AM

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Thank you all for all the different ideas on how to deal with this. Very helpful, many new ideas. I think it will be a multifaceted approach for sure. Let me answer a few questions and elaborate on my situation, as well as I can.

@AluminumFoilRabbits - Im 3 months off opiates, 4 years of daily use, and 6 months off MDMA. "Normal" bumps would be someone who's just dealing with PAWS from opiates. Re acclimating to society. I'm dealing with the MDMA abuse as well which makes it hard for me to find anyone to compare and contrast with.

@Ritalin Ill be 25 in a few months.

@Psyren I ran out of 5-htp about 2 weeks ago and haven't had money to buy more yet. Took 400mg a day for at least 2 months. No discernible help. Hard to tell. Everything seems so subtle, compared to the 0-60 approach I have become so used to. Haven't started Omega 3s yet. Plan on it this week.

This just led me to writing a little essay about the current state of my life and trying to figure out what to do now. It will be on the open discussion board if anyones interested and cares to delve a little deeper into whats going on with me. Peace.


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#17 Posted : 6/20/2012 8:23:13 AM

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benzyme wrote:
ayahuasca does nothing to fix axonal and dendritic damage.


Where do you get this info? I want to read it!

I thought Aya helped cleanse from "MDMA" from a month before- The purge wreaked of it. I thought and felt it being removed, and even I thought I could smell and taste it.

@Chronicmic -- I find those super-green superfood probiotic supplements are really energizing and help my brain bubble--There's one I love called "green vibrance"
 
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#18 Posted : 6/21/2012 4:20:51 AM

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I did pure MDPV for a year and took it to the point which was just beyond overkill.. I'm fine now after a year. I have managed to beat my addiction to all drugs, cigarettes (cold turkey 1 year now), and caffeine. Meditation has helped me tremendously along with eating healthy, drinking lots of water and taking vitamins to replenish what was depleted, then obviously tonnns of sleep. Soo yeah the psychosis was horrible at first but it is fading out now. I'm young tho (21) so I'm glad I got my severe addictions out of the way early lol

You will need to relearn a lot of things mentally and emotionally yes. But it will happen. and some days you will feel like just giving in, but I don't think you will. I feel you've learned your lesson, as did I Pleased It is well worth it to live the semi-sober life with occasional psychedelic journeys here and there Smile Goodluck on your path and good vibes to you my friend
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#19 Posted : 6/21/2012 5:58:08 AM

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RoGu3 wrote:
I did pure MDPV for a year and took it to the point which was just beyond overkill..


Wow dude. I can't even imagine. I've heard some bad things about MDPV. Heard about one person who after a 3 week binge fell into some pretty serious stimulant psychosis. He was hearing voices that were telling him he was a world class password hacker. Plenty of other problems.

Glad you made through it. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
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#20 Posted : 6/21/2012 8:09:33 PM

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I do feel your pain, at least with the opiates. I was able to work my self down from a bad heroin and opana/dilated(or and any other pharm opiate) Using poppy pods and then kratom. Kratom really saved my life. Its still hard and every now and then ill indulge in some kind of opiate, i really dont see a problem with that if you can have enough self control to not make it a daily thing.
I try to keep kratom around and then phenibut around for anxiety.
If ive had a really bad day then a beer and some good weed usually fixes that.
I do try to make omega 3s part of my diet, either with pills or seafood. And ive read a lot of good things about 5htp but have yet to try it. I do feel like i suffer from depression, is my brain not making enough serotonin? will 5htp help? idk
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