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Making DMT Fumerate and Harmalas Gel tabs for sublingual use? Help wanted. Options
 
Cosmic_Revolution
#1 Posted : 6/16/2012 10:37:04 AM

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I came across this thread 5-MEO DMT Window Pane and I'm super excited to try this with DMT Fumerate and Harmalas HCL. Im going to repost the steps to make 5-MEO DMT Gel Tabs/Window Pane. I'm eager to know if anyone sees any potential problems, and I'm excited to get everyone's opinion. Im pretty new to this world so advice is greatly appreciated.

Things Im Wandering:

1. Is this not going to be possible because the amount of DMT fumerate needed is significantly higher that 5-MEO DMT?

2. Same question only in regard to Harmala's?

3. What form of Harmalas would be best? HCL?

Here are a few notes on sublingual administration of Spice and Harmala's so everything is concise.
-> 30mg-40mg worth of full alkaloid spice acetate or fumarate should produce a moderate or high level trip
-> 40mg THH to activate sublingual spice, 15mg-30mg to potentiate vaporized spice.
-> 1:1-1:2 of spice to total harmaloids administered to activate sublingual spice.
-> Less harmaloids necessary with use of stronger RIMA's like harm aline.

Here is the original recipe for 5-MEO DMT Gel Tabs as posted in the Original thread:
A Shout out goes to 69ron for the original thread because this is an amazing idea.
I plan on making a Picture based Tek if the Sublingual DMT Fumerate Gel Tabs are a success!!!!!!Thumbs up Smile Big grin Love

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Windowpane is made of gelatin, water, and glycerin at a ratio of 1:2:1 by weight. For example, for a small amount, this would be 2 grams of gelatin, 4 ml of water, and 1.62 ml of glycerin.

I wanted to do a test run to see if it worked before doing the real deal.

1) I measured out 2 grams of gelatin and put it in a small flexible silicone cupcake baking cup.

2) I mixed 4 ml of water with and 1.6 ml of glycerin and poured that into the baking cup.

3) I let it sit for 1 minute and then put it in an oven for 1 hour at 200 F to melt the gelatin.

4) I took out the baking cup and mixed the small amount of solution with a toothpick. This caused lots of air bubbles to form.

5) I then put the solution in the freezer for 1 hour. After that the gel hardened.


So, this was a success. I had empty windowpane, but air bubbles were still present in the windowpane. I tried a small piece. I placed it under my tongue and in a few minutes it dissolved completely. It tastes a little sweet because of the glycerin. Quite nice actually. I could add some liquid stevia to make it even sweeter if I liked. So this was PERFECT for using 5-MeO-DMT sublingually.



P.S. Im extremely excited to get everyones input on this!! Let me know what you think Love
 

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#2 Posted : 6/16/2012 2:36:15 PM

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I have 0 experience with sublingual pharmahuasca, but maybe you should check amorfati's method?

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ti%27s_Guide_to_Juremala

hope it helps! Let us know how it works out either way!
 
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#3 Posted : 6/16/2012 7:15:09 PM

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IME you have to sort of paint it on under your tounge like Amor Fati describes. I had to do it little by little otherwise it did not absorb fast enough and I swallowed too much of it for it to work. I got it to work once and it was nice.

So I dont know how well a whole gel tab would absorb.
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#4 Posted : 6/16/2012 11:05:02 PM

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Thanks guys! I'll report back in a few days after I conduct my experiments.
 
 
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