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JasonW
#1 Posted : 6/13/2012 5:18:01 AM
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I have tried multiple times to smoke DMT and I have yet to be able to take in enough to get to the breakthrough.... I have used both an oil burner and a homemade vape to do this.

Once again, I have some DMT freebase. I have around 180mg left and I want to get it right this time so I thought maybe I should try it the oral way with a MAOI.

So, will this work: For the MAOI(http://www.shamansgarden.com/p-368-liquid-extract-harmaline-5x.aspx) I drop a few drops of this in a shot glass of orange juice, wait 15-20mins & drank it, put the DMT freebase into a shot of orange juice(so it turns into DMT citrate) and drank it.

Any assistance would be appreciated, it would also be great if anyone new a store I could buy a MAOI from that's not online, but if necessary this way is fine. And how do I know how much of a MAOI I need to use?
 

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#2 Posted : 6/13/2012 5:38:50 AM
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hello

I would suggest:
Try using paper matches for your oil burner

Also:
I doubt that 5x cappi stuff is strong enough

MAOI is so easy to come by....not sure why you would need a not online store?

EDIT: I would personally recommend K.T botanicals, they have a nice caapi selection
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#3 Posted : 6/13/2012 6:14:32 AM
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MAOI is so easy to come by?? What would you suggest? Also, I can't do any extensive extraction or anything that's going to take hours(so I can't do the whole grinding up bark and boiling multiple times method). I need something a bit on the quicker side and was hoping for less nausea but whatever if it works. For example, if I were to get some of this Banisteriopsis Caapi (Yage) 5X Extract, what would be the quickest method of administering it? How much do I need?
 
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#4 Posted : 6/13/2012 9:34:34 AM

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PS: Why do you want the "quickest easiest method" ? Hopefully you are not doing this in dorms or someone's house that is not OK with it, as our attitude page warns against.
 
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#5 Posted : 6/13/2012 9:51:55 AM

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MAOIs are easy to come by because it's in a lot of natural and legal plants. B. caapi and Syrian Rue both contain harmalas, a mix of Harmine, Harmaline and Tetrahydroharmine. These harmalas can easily to extracted by brewing them into a tea or doing a proper A/B extract to yield only pure harmalas.

Instead of purchasing extracts online, why not buy yourself 500g of b. caapi or Syrian rue? They're a lot cheaper than buying those 5x extracts and brewing a tea is as simple as putting a pot on the water.
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#6 Posted : 6/13/2012 9:55:22 AM

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JasonW wrote:
MAOI is so easy to come by?? What would you suggest?

persian shops sell syrian rue as "esphand/espand" incense (about 2-5g is a good dose).
but seriously there is no reason to be afraid of buying totally legal botanicals online.

also you should consider making infused leaf or changa, as that can be easier to vape.
also also if you have the money for it, investing in a GVG is the way to go.
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#7 Posted : 6/13/2012 10:44:54 AM

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I would also go with infused leaf, its pretty fool proof, just load a bong and smoke it.
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#8 Posted : 6/13/2012 11:51:16 AM

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3rdI wrote:
I would also go with infused leaf, its pretty fool proof, just load a bong and smoke it.

better yet a keyv2 or VG or even a volcano vape of some-kind
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#9 Posted : 6/13/2012 12:00:12 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
3rdI wrote:
I would also go with infused leaf, its pretty fool proof, just load a bong and smoke it.

better yet a keyv2 or VG or even a volcano vape of some-kind


I didn't find the key any better than a bong to be honest and I doubt someone is gonna spend a lot on a vaping device before they have had a strong experience.

I just find infused herb a very good way to work with DMT, no technique needed just load it and go.

But yes in the long term I would advise a GVG as its effective, the healthiest option and its very very cool.
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#10 Posted : 6/13/2012 12:02:14 PM

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3rdI wrote:

I didn't find the key any better than a bong to be honest and I doubt someone is gonna spend a lot on a vaping device before they have had a strong experience.

i had GREAT results with the key v2, and it only costs like 5 bucks...
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#11 Posted : 6/13/2012 12:22:33 PM

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Do you find it noticeably better than a bong with infused leaf?
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#12 Posted : 6/13/2012 2:03:32 PM

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3rdI wrote:
Do you find it noticeably better than a bong with infused leaf?

very much so, i even use it for cannabis.
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#13 Posted : 6/13/2012 2:22:22 PM

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Fair enough, maybe I didn't do it right.
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#14 Posted : 6/13/2012 4:53:02 PM
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A simple recipe for you to go far:

Acquire a glass bong...sandwich the DMT between 2 herbs, light top layer of leaf with lighter to cheery and drag it SLOW filling the bong. Pull slider/carb and take'r in.

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Or as they said above; make some infused leaf with the possibility of adding an maoi to the mix to make changa, but infused leaf would do jusst fine. And yes it's pretty much fool proof.

 
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#15 Posted : 6/13/2012 11:54:15 PM
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I think I'm going to make a vape out of a plastic bottle again... that seemed to work best. I don't smoke weed anymore, so no sandwiching unless I used tobacco; but that's unnecessary this way anyway, I'll just try to get one big hit at once, hopefully I can hold it.
 
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#16 Posted : 6/14/2012 1:55:01 AM

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JasonW wrote:
I think I'm going to make a vape out of a plastic bottle again... that seemed to work best. I don't smoke weed anymore, so no sandwiching unless I used tobacco; but that's unnecessary this way anyway, I'll just try to get one big hit at once, hopefully I can hold it.


You can use a psychoactively inactive herb like mullein, peppermint or sage.
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It shouldn't even feel as if it's a big hit imho. In my experience the hit feels like just another deep breath. Pulling it into the lungs for so long and feeling your self rise away and still inhaling. Smile Once I took my dose and sort of went back to the place before where I was hitting it and entered that room and sat down and hit it again irl. I enjoy the machine very much but getting a good hole can be a pain, but just takes patience. I use a one serving glass pendleton bottle.
 
 
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