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anrchy
#1 Posted : 6/13/2012 10:20:46 PM

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So this is pretty close IMO. Atleast the closest I have seen as far as computer generated graphics compared to DMT visuals go. I don't think any of this has been posted on here before.

Unfortunately the web based program is not in beta phase any longer, and I didnt get to try it out, but you can put your email in to hopefully get early access to the program when its done. website: http://fractal.io/

This is an example of what the program does, very DMT like:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/kUGvgcIxpuA

Here's another, fast forward to 5:20 for the best part:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/sQBH7CrRxUo

I have been looking at pictures and videos and I really think its possible to at least in 2D on a computer screen represent what you see on DMT. For me, the visuals are more than just seeing, and the seeing part is much more advanced then what our eyes are capable of. BUT I still think we could represent these visuals on a computer. And I believe it would be fairly close, at least to the point at which we can visualize them in our brain days after the experience.

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If you post links to other videos or pics that fall into the category of being DMT like I will add them to the first post.
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#2 Posted : 6/13/2012 10:41:54 PM

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These don't remind me too much of what I see on DMT, but I digress. It has been my observation from my experiences that the patterns in and of themselves may not hold as much psychological sway as we tend to give them credit for. Of course they're beautiful no matter what, but I've noticed that its their invisible connections to me that often make them so captivating. For example, sometimes an external disturbance can sever the connection such as a sudden loud noise like a door slamming or dog barking or something. All the geometries are still there, but they're no longer engaging me, and the satisfaction level drops through the floor. I think it's very much akin to listening to music in the sense that you can listen to your favorite song, and on one day it might really connect with you and you really feel it, and on another day, it doesn't really do so much for you. The audio data is the same, yet you end up feeling much different. Analogously, the visuals can be the same and not elicit the same kinds of emotional responses if that ethereal connection is absent.
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#3 Posted : 6/13/2012 10:54:06 PM

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Global wrote:
These don't remind me too much of what I see on DMT, but I digress. It has been my observation from my experiences that the patterns in and of themselves may not hold as much psychological sway as we tend to give them credit for. Of course they're beautiful no matter what, but I've noticed that its their invisible connections to me that often make them so captivating. For example, sometimes an external disturbance can sever the connection such as a sudden loud noise like a door slamming or dog barking or something. All the geometries are still there, but they're no longer engaging me, and the satisfaction level drops through the floor. I think it's very much akin to listening to music in the sense that you can listen to your favorite song, and on one day it might really connect with you and you really feel it, and on another day, it doesn't really do so much for you. The audio data is the same, yet you end up feeling much different. Analogously, the visuals can be the same and not elicit the same kinds of emotional responses if that ethereal connection is absent.


I completely agree with you about feeling the experience as opposed to just seeing it. Thats why I say this about DMT visuals:
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the visuals are more than just seeing, and the seeing part is much more advanced then what our eyes are capable of
You cannot capture a full DMT experience with a visual generator.

For me, the first video hits the spot as far as the morphing and kaleidoscoping goes. I guess its more of the nature at which these visuals work are akin to what I have seen on pre-breakthrough DMT experiences. A type of visual that I see is also a ghosting cloud like formation, I am able to see its outer constraints but they always appear translucent as well. Most of the time these ghost clouds are an entity or of one.

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#4 Posted : 6/13/2012 11:31:44 PM

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I feel that those animations don't capture the interdimensional nature of the visuals I see. It just seems to lack that holographic-light feature of hyperspace.
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#5 Posted : 6/13/2012 11:38:38 PM

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As far as the first video goes, I've had the exact same kind of visuals while looking at a concrete floor on 4-AcO-DET.
 
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#6 Posted : 6/14/2012 1:50:59 AM

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I really like how the beginning of the first video began, Was it actually in an attempt to recreate a DMT breakthrough though? Because though it is very similar at first, at least to what I experienced, it also gets alot less like a trip at many points in the video.
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#7 Posted : 6/14/2012 5:47:19 AM

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The beginning of that first video, and the stuff that kicks in 5:20 into the Tool video... I forget the name of that program, but I know what you're talking about. I watched a short online tutorial and was blown away.

If you want to see more amazing stuff done with this software, search "Mandelbox" at YouTube. There's a whole variety of stuff being done with it.

It's very trippy, and would be fun to watch on LSD or shrooms. And I have definitely seen patterns like the beginning of the first video while viewing concrete on acid. Great compelling stuff, but definitely low-level, pre-breakthrough OEV stuff.

Deep hyperspace is another story entirely. In my experience, not only are all the shapes and patterns seamlessly interconnected somehow, but the whole thing is made of seamless, mathematically perfect visual language; a language so deeply embedded in us that we cannot deny the truth in the messages we see. That's why it feels more real than real.

So conveying that aspect in a computer video is kind of a high goal to try achieving...
 
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#8 Posted : 6/14/2012 6:45:53 AM

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[quote="Guyomech" but definitely low-level, pre-breakthrough OEV stuff.[/quote]

This is basically what I'm saying. I cannot speak for breakthrough visuals as I have yet to breakthrough. My anxiety is still too strong. As far as pre-breakthrough style this is what kinda of things I have seen dosing around 15-20mg
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I like the 5:20 part and it's somewhat similar to the "building block landscape" I sometimes encounter, but unfortunately(As usual) it isn't even close to the real deal... But nice.
 
 
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