hello nexus , I have not posted in The forum in a while so I though I would post this interesting experience.

Substance: 4-ACO-DMT
dosage: eyeballed
moa: snorted

The come up was quick and things started looking brighter and clearer ,
By 15 minutes I was feeling the effects very strong so I decided to sit up and meditate.
My mind started going along to a strange harmonic melody which produced some nice visuals.
As I continued to chant this strange melody in my head the visuals gradually changed to fractals and DMT hyperspace hallucinations . I got very strong vibrations and Was very deeply immersed in hyperspace . I then felt the presence of a creature that is present in all my n,n experiences.
when I opened my eyes the room was morphing extremely vividly , I spent the next 3 hours floating around my mind coming into contact with all the creatures I usually meet in my DMT travels such as jesters.
In conclusion the experience was indistinguishable from a DMT trip and had a very dark theme to it .
4-ACO-DMT has a whole different side to it in high doses

On teh Shroomery some guy is plugging this stuff as an injection saying its better than DMT, its the step further.. all this stuff... I have no idea myself, but it sounds as if the dude just never broke through with NN.... Idk though.. .How does this compare to Psilocybin?

psilocybe mushrooms are different from psilacetin. both have their own properties that makes them unique.
4-aco-dmt is nice, and similar to mushrooms, (kind of). try it for yourself and see

it has no bodyload at all and there are far less negative effects.
its much gentler and mellower and slow-mo-er, both mentally and physically, than actual psilocybe mushrooms.

really though i see no point in comparing the 2 side by side, as i said, each is their own substance with their own unique qualities and properties.

try some and see!
its awesome
<3

Interesting to hear you can snort it. I figured you probably could, but I haven't done any empirical research yet.

The 4-Aco arrived in the mail in less than 2 days, but the 0.001 scale is still not here after 2 weeks. Driving me CRAZY. Did an Ehrlich and things were good, but I don't want to even allergy test before I can at least weigh the stuff.

BELIEVE YOU ME I've felt the urge to just eyeball some of it, but I just can't bring myself to eyeball unless I've put aside a special WEIGHED vial specifically for eyeballing from. Safety first!

You're ballsy (and a little crazy). Be safe aaron, but your experience sounds amazing thanks for sharing. BTW—was this your first time/first couple of times with 4-Aco-DMT?

I find that when you're new with any substance are INCREDIBLY vivid, beyond description—Synthetic Tryptamines especially. I could even compare 5-meo-DiPT (17mg, oral) to DMT at certain points. No entity contact, but extremely otherworldly visuals. Can't imagine what say snorting or smoking 15 or 20mg would've achieved.

IME it's only after the first couple experiences that you can really determine if something is equal in potency to something else that you've used a similar amount of times.

I think it would have been around my 15th experience with 4-ACO-DMT but this was the furthest I have ever went with the substance.
RebornInSmoke warned me about how high doses become very DMT like and dark , he was right indeed!
Whats weird now is ever since this experience , even on Low doses of 4-ACO-DMT I can easily tune into that hyperspace frequency , its opened some new doors for me.

Do you guys get good visuals from 4-aco? Even at 35 mg or so (oral) I don't get any open or closed eye visuals. Just an ok headspace and some crazy psychedelic energy surging in my body.

At my normal doses Things are a lot brighter and ultra HD and I have some beautiful cevs, but the experience I describe in this thread is the first where I had actual open eye visuals ,the walls were breathing , the floor was flowing ,my wardrobe was pulsating and approaching me and when I turned the lights off there were jesters around me and other creatures.

Hey, can it be freebased and smoked?
I always wanted to smoke mushrooms, and 4-aco-dmt is the closest it seems.

Around 18 months ago I had 45mg weighed out and placed on a CD case split into two, for myself and a friend.

Somehow I had the too close together and sniffed too hard. Both lines went up by mistake.

I spent most of the time layed back on my bed, eyes closed, flying thought hyperspace. It was an amazing experience, hearing my own thoughts read out to me before I thought them, engaging with entities, although at one point I convinced myself I had actually passed out and that the bedroom I was walking about in was part of a dream and the real me was not actually awake.

I also had a deep and meaningful conversation with an entity which looked like a moon with facial features flying alongside me in hyperspace - it represented my mother, or so it felt. I thought at the time that Id been connected with her subconsciousness and was communicating with her via hyperspace.

Not sure I'd go there again at that dose, but I am glad I did all the same.

IMHO, 4aco-dmt goes nicely with a 20-min prior harmala-of-choice ..... can really deepen the visual and spiritual sides of the experience.