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Does Psilocybin affect our pheromonal signature? Options
 
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#21 Posted : 6/9/2012 1:38:49 PM

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Dr. Fungus wrote:
Global wrote:
I dunno about insect repellent, but from my understanding of pheromones, part of the formula is that being in different emotional states creates the release of different pheromones. Since psilocybin facilitates changes in emotional states constantly, perhaps pheromone output would be directly affected.


It is an interesting idea indeed, but I think using Occam's razor rule in explaining the phenomena leads to conclusion (and there are two scientific opinions I obtained that are backing this position: one of biochemist, another - pharmacognosist) that it is either lymphatic, endocrine or pheromonal response of serotonergic depots within the synaptic agitation range by psylocybin, causing these systems to over-activate. Being a true hematofilic parasites, mosquitoes' ability to detect any deviations in a normal biological profile of the host is the questions of life or death. If the insect misinterprets this "signature" due to changes caused by the tryptamine, it might consider such masking a sign that food is not fresh or edible anymore, given we can take as a working assumption that blood-sucking insects posses yet undiscovered ability to sense such metabolic processes via some unique sense or other means, therefore treating inebriated person or animal as potentially "hazardous" target who is in the process of detoxifying from perhaps a harmful substance and therefore is not worth risk of eating. This could be a simple evolutionary defense mechanism that spares both parties from unnecessary poisoning.


If you want to use occam's razor here, it looks like you should be slashing your decently complex answer Rolling eyes
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#22 Posted : 6/9/2012 5:28:39 PM

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Sandtrout wrote:
HBWR left a friend and I to realize and say to each other simultaneously, "They're landing, but they're not biting!" -- we were talking about mosquitos of course.

Pure anecdose.


I had this same realization with a group of friends when we were outside on a DMT trip. I'll affirm for the OP that at least in that specific experience, we both attracted bugs and deterred their bite. About five of us filled a large balloon of DMT vapors and ran 40 yrds into a phalaris field. We finished the vapors on the run and as we sat down we all melted into a trip. It was very interesting and we all seemed synced to each other and all life surrounding us.

As we came out of the trip and could begin seeing each other again, we realized our tingling bodies were covered with hundreds of crawling insects. We jumped up, startled, but then the insects mysteriously flew away and not a single one of us were bitten.

I think it would make sense that some of the only surviving tribes in the jungles are also the ones that eat some form of tryptamine or repellent.
 
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#23 Posted : 6/9/2012 5:34:40 PM

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Global wrote:
If you want to use occam's razor here, it looks like you should be slashing your decently complex answer Rolling eyes


Well, I still had to articulate all the ins and outs. Even Nature has no short answer. I had to elaborate to align with those asking for clarifications to my methods and procedures Pleased
 
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#24 Posted : 6/9/2012 7:47:39 PM

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I grew up in the mississippi delta and I can confirm that mosquitoes do indeed avoid people on psychedelics. I can attest to mushrooms and LSD...

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