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#1 Posted : 6/8/2012 8:51:50 AM
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Hey all i have gone on a hunt around my area looking for Acacia Burkittii, but i didnt find it does anyone know where in Adelaide, South Australia i can find that plant?

along the way i took some photo graphs which looked similar to some plants i had seen which are supposed to contain DMT so i took some photos to see if anyone here recognises anything.

Ignore the 2nd and 3rd photo please.
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#2 Posted : 6/8/2012 8:58:55 AM
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please ignore the 2nd and 3rd photo as i know they dont i accidently put it up just dont know how to get rid of it
 
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#3 Posted : 6/8/2012 10:08:21 AM

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i dont thing that plant has anything in it, but that grass next to it (and kind of invading in on it) may or may not be phalaris (not to get your hopes up)
see if it has a prominent ligule membrane (google it) or if the leaves match up to phalaris.

also if you see the same growing in other places in clumps, that is a good indication as well.

after that you can by a phalaris plant for comparison; arundicea can be found just about everywhere as ornamental ribbon grass (variegated).

also you should look for acacia trees, as they grow in lots of places.
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#4 Posted : 6/8/2012 3:39:58 PM

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Which plant is this similar to which is supposed to contain DMT?

Did you check our wiki DMT page with the list of dmt-containing plants? I think that's a good place to look at, and then start looking for plants in that list (or plants of related genus) that may be in your area.
 
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#5 Posted : 6/8/2012 7:04:49 PM
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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
but that grass next to it (and kind of invading in on it) may or may not be phalaris


which photo?
 
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#6 Posted : 6/8/2012 7:24:01 PM
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Which plant is this similar to which is supposed to contain DMT?
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the last photo and phalaris arundinacea but i dont think so after close inspectionThumbs down
 
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Did someone on here identify the 2nd and 3rd photos for you? They look like acacias to me, though the pics are blurry. Not sure what kind, but acacias often contain dmt as well as other alkaloids.
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#8 Posted : 6/9/2012 1:44:57 AM

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the last photo and phalaris arundinacea but i dont think so after close inspectionThumbs down

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#9 Posted : 6/9/2012 1:59:26 AM

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regarding flinders wattle (acacia iteaphylla) i did a test extraction on it a few days ago and came out with what looked to be oils and crystal formations though i don't believe its dmt.. it could well be active.. i'm sending it off to get tested anyway so i guess i'll find out. my guess is not..

I'll also reinforce what nen said, that we don't give tree locations on the dmt nexus due to wildharvesting problems in the past which have affected plant populations. you'll just have to have some initiative and go out looking for it once you feel comfortable with recognising its appearance. look at lots of different photos.

and remember, you get out what you put in. you won't just find burkitti like that you gotta put in a bit of work Smile

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#10 Posted : 6/10/2012 8:48:47 AM
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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
sc001 wrote:
the last photo and phalaris arundinacea but i dont think so after close inspectionThumbs down

mimosa rootbark is a worthwhile investment, get it while you still can!


do you know where i can find it? can you PM me?
 
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#11 Posted : 6/10/2012 8:52:04 AM
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bricklaya wrote:

I'll also reinforce what nen said, that we don't give tree locations on the dmt nexus due to wildharvesting problems in the past which have affected plant populations. you'll just have to have some initiative and go out looking for it once you feel comfortable with recognising its appearance. look at lots of different photos.

and remember, you get out what you put in. you won't just find burkitti like that you gotta put in a bit of work Smile

good luck!


well iv spent a week looking on the net, joining forums, asking around, iv got bush walking near my area and havent found anything that i could recognise.

its fair enough if you odnt give locations out i undrestand but a hint to the right direction would be good.

i did find some locations of acacia burkittii but their scattered in the middle of south australia in the middle of the deserts way too far away.
 
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#12 Posted : 6/10/2012 8:55:35 AM
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can anyone confirm if this is Phalaris arundinacea picta? can anyone also confirm that this does contain DMT and how much? i have researched but as there is a a vriety of Phalaris arundinacea but i culdnt find the (picta) type, i only noticed this as i saw a picture of it on the shamans australia website so im assuming it does.
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#13 Posted : 6/10/2012 9:40:06 AM

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that looks like Liriope.
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#14 Posted : 6/10/2012 9:49:58 PM

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Sorry buddy there are no short cuts to finding/learning about this amazing, naturally occurring alkaloid that is DMT. You say you have been at it for a week? Just to put it in perspective i personally have been learning/ researching for 3 years ( first two were all research and no reward) but there are many on the Nexus here that have been at it for a decade or more. By doing the hard yards yourself you will have gained valuable knowledge, patients and understanding of what the Nexus tries to teach us.

I recommend reading the entire "trying to improve Acacia information" thread. I know it's at 30+ pages by now but really is worth it. Also try to find your areas flora identification books as they often contain a reference for "representative collection location". This is where the authors found the species to occur or collected herbarium specimens from, usually a good start. And sorry to say but the locations you mentioned in the desert are going to be your best bet for finding undisturbed populations. Sadly Acacia acuminata and its close relatives have already started to feel the effects of wild, unethical harvesting. This is one of the reasons why people will not give out specific locations of trees/tree populations.

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#15 Posted : 6/10/2012 10:38:11 PM

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Sorry man that is a variegated Dianella. A native aus grass like plant also refered to as flax lillies. Not known to contain dmt but thats probably because no ones ever looked. But probably not. Definately not Phalaris though sorry.
 
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#16 Posted : 6/11/2012 4:44:09 AM
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Spice Sailor wrote:
Sorry man that is a variegated Dianella. A native aus grass like plant also refered to as flax lillies. Not known to contain dmt but thats probably because no ones ever looked. But probably not. Definately not Phalaris though sorry.


this is ridicilouse, i have joined several other forums and each person has given me a diffrent name.

so far i have

Liriope
Variegated dianella
spider plant
and if you look at shamans australia site, in their soul (DMT) plants section they have it as Phalaris arundinacea Picta?

all these names bring the image of the same plant on google and wikipedia?? soo annoyingSad
 
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#17 Posted : 6/11/2012 6:25:03 AM

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this is ridicilouse, i have joined several other forums and each person has given me a diffrent name.


What is really ridiculous is a fuzzy picture picture taken by someone and posted on the internet for Identification. Even more ridiculous is not knowing a plant so you ask someone what it is, and then telling them they are wrong.

Good luck!
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this is ridicilouse, i have joined several other forums and each person has given me a diffrent name.


What is really ridiculous is a fuzzy picture picture taken by someone and posted on the internet for Identification. Even more ridiculous is not knowing a plant so you ask someone what it is, and then telling them they are wrong.

Good luck!
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and whats again more ridiculous is that sc001 didn't even tell anyone they were wrong like you just accused him of Pleasedhe/she is just confused at so many differen't names bringing up similar looking plants.. But alas sc001 this pic is once again terrible quality.. you need to understand that a plant can't be identified if its blurry because there can be many plants that are only marginally different and need to be studied in finer detail. And there's probably a lot of differen't grasses that look like that too which would explain getting so many differen't answers
 
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right on spice sailor! Thumbs up
I myself have now been at it for almost two years and only recently had success a few months back. And looking back I really had no clue, even when i thought I did a number of times... constantly thinking anything with slightly broad leaves might be an obtusifolia Razz
definitely takes patience finding a good acacia dmt source.
 
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Spice Sailor is probably right, despite your fuzzy picture one can see a the remanants of a floral stem with bracteols.
100% sure it's not Phalaris arundinacea 'Picta'. So put that to rest.

While on the subject, I would have thought that DMT levels in the 'Picta' cultivar would be low, due to it's low chlorophyl. But on this I stand to be corrected.
 
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